There's a lot of truth in that statement, imho. It does get old, but I think it's well overblown by people.
On a small level, business success is directly related to employee satisfaction or hapiness. So I'm saying those factors do concern business people . . . employee hapiness is a business related topic.
If you are saying these people were going to commit sucide anyways, shouldn't the sucide rate in sunny areas be jsut as high. Unless Ptd gives birth to a higher rate of "doomed" people.
So, you going to move your business out of portland because of the suicide rate? Me neither. It's immaterial. barfo
In fact, I love the weather. Not too hot, not too cold. I learned as a little kid that I wasn't going to melt like the Wicked Witch of the West when I got wet, so rain doesn't bother me or change what I do outside. I live in a town much of the year with 315 days of sunshine. Blech. I'd take PDX any day.
also as someone who travels a lot (not as often as HCP obviously) but it is such a beautiful clean city. Anthony Kiedis talked about how nice it is here, and how you can breathe the air. I think if I had to live in a city, the only city I would choose to live in before here is NYC (obviously not for the same reasons as Portland)
That always seem to be your analysis in the end. No I'm not moving because taxes were raised. Not I'm not moving the sucide rate is higher. So I guess that makes all this immaterial. In a way most of life is immaterial. The Blazers winning or losing tonight really doesn't effect my life much (a little on the emotions, but nothing that will chage what I do) so the Blazer game is immaterial. Nothing on this board will make me change what I do . . . I guess the only thing that is material in my life (according to your standards) is winning the lottery since that is the only thing that will cause me to change my life. Really I started gettting involved in this thread just to say that Ptd is not as rosy some say. But apparently, in light of an article that says Ptd is the unhappiest city in the US and data about sucide, deprression, divorce and weather . . . some still want to believe Ptd has no problems and is one of the best places to live. Whatever . . . we all see Ptd different, but it all really doesn't matter how we see it if we aren't going to move. I get the don't give a shit attitude. .
Well I guess I better put down too taht I travel alot . . . and I agree Ptd is a neat, unique community. But personally I have seen cleaner cities and do we need to start talking about the river that runs right through the clean city. I don't think even the most loyal Portlander will try to say defend taht river as being clean . . . well on this board and given the trend in this trhread, I'm guessing some will defend the river as being one of the cleanest and most beautiful they have seen.
I noticed a significant change in the attitudes of the Portlanders only because I was away for 6+ years in the Army... when I left everyone was nice as can be... smiled to each other... said hi... generally positive vibe. When I came back in 1992 the vibe had changed. What caused it? Hell if I know... maybe nothing... ... maybe the boatload of strip clubs and family bars that exploded onto the scene... maybe inflitration of Californians... maybe just in my head... but I do know the weather is pretty much the same.
You're right. There isn't a difference between "moving out of portland" and "not having the most successful business possible". I wonder why companies provide perks to their employees. Clearly employee moral has nothing to do with a company's success.
Agreed. Washington County and Happy Valley feels like The Valley and the Inland Empire. It seems the attitude is, "Let's move to get away from everything we hate and then create exactly the same environment."
Booze is a depressant, lots of people drink here, therefore we are depressed. Then we drink to get over our depression.
Then drink coffee to get perked up. Then read at Powells to mellow out. Then watch strippers. Then back to drinking. Rinse and repeat. Wait a minute. What's everybody depressed about?
Coming back to the computer I want to post that I am sorry I ever got involved in this thread (like most threads I get involved in ). I actually love Ptd and the many good aspects about the city. I still feel it isn't a perfect city and I think the gov't has really held back the potential of this state, but I agree with all who think it is a great place to live. I was wrong to be so critical of the city and let my emotions get the best of me. Peace all, and of course . . . GO Portland!
