Alot of people say he is overated,he has won a championship in both NBA and college and done a pretty solid job until he went to the Knicks.That being said, do you think he is overated as a coach?
I think he was put into good situations in Detroit and Philly. He hadn't really done much in the NBA until he took Philly to the finals. A great coach, as he has been called, would be able to take a team like the Knicks to the playoffs, their roster is not bad. To be the 2nd worst team in the league with that kind of lineup isn't cutting it. Larry Brown needs to retire.
yeah, he is. Now people are using the excuse that the players need time to adjust. That's bullsh**. He had talent wherever he went.
I respect Brown a great deal. I mean he won a championship in college and in the pro's. That's special. But he is not loyal (bounces from team to team), it's his way or the highway, and I think he is getting a little old. He knows basketball, no doubt, but I agree with the fact that with the Knicks roster he has, he definitely should have gotten them to at least 8th seed in the EAST.
i wouldn't say he's overrated yet. if he still can't get the knicks to win next season i think i may have to say he could be overrated. he's known for turning franchises around. you can't really blame this year soley on brown. there were several reasons why the knicks were awful this year. he's won wherever he's been so i am not gonna say he is overrated.
I would say brown is still a good coach. he's just got an idiot for a GM who keeps giving him players who no coach can work with. Larry Brown is just in a really sh*tty situation. I think if he had guys with heart and desire he could get the Knicks into the playoffs because they do have the talent. they just dont have the drive. Larry Brown knows what he is doing, he is one of the only people to have won a championship in the NBA, NCAA and ABA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ May 7 2006, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would say brown is still a good coach. he's just got an idiot for a GM who keeps giving him players who no coach can work with. Larry Brown is just in a really sh*tty situation. I think if he had guys with heart and desire he could get the Knicks into the playoffs because they do have the talent. they just dont have the drive. Larry Brown knows what he is doing, he is one of the only people to have won a championship in the NBA, NCAA and ABA.</div>I agree. Isiah is a terrible GM. A team of Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Jalen Rose, Eddy Curry, Jamal Crawford, Chinning Frye, Mo Taylor, Malik Rose, Nate Robinson, Quentin Richardson, and David Lee is talent though man. And Qyntel Woods showed some promise this year as well. But that team will never work. Like I said in the Knicks forum, they need to fire Isiah and go on a 6 year plan, wait until those contracts run out, then build from there from the ground up. The Knicks players need to accept their role in the meantime though. There are a lot of players that are only affective with the ball in their hands a lot (Marbury/Francis/Rose/Crawford). I also think they should definitely go to Eddy Curry more often. Marbury and Francis need to get out of New York (Francis was NOT happy there and Marbury can say what he wants and so can Larry Brown, but the reality is they have a problem with each other and Marbury wants to be a star, win or lose).But on topic, Larry Brown is a great coach but he did not have a great year. He should have gotten this team into the 8th spot with that talent, really. But most of the problem was Isiah and the players unwillingness to listen or even attempt to try to play the "right way."
He's been overrated for a long time. He's a good coach but last year everyone was acting like he was Red Auerbach or something. :no1:
People were treating him like a great coach, well look at the Pistons, about 10 coaches could onestly take that team to the title considering how diluted the league is.
well he is a great coach. not the best ever. you're right about the pistons tho. that team is one for the ages but i don't think people were really treating him like red auerbach.
No, Larry Brown is not overrated in my mind. A lot of people are forgetting what he's done throughout his entire coaching career, and are focusing too much on Philly, Detroit, and the Knicks.Look at all the franchises he has turned around, and then tell me how many coaches could have done the same. Not many.People keep saying "if he's so great he should have done better with the Knicks," but they don't realize that it ALWAYS takes him a year of sucking with a new team to get on the right track, and then the second year is when they play well (with the exception of Detroit, obviously).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ May 8 2006, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, Larry Brown is not overrated in my mind. A lot of people are forgetting what he's done throughout his entire coaching career, and are focusing too much on Philly, Detroit, and the Knicks.Look at all the franchises he has turned around, and then tell me how many coaches could have done the same. Not many.People keep saying "if he's so great he should have done better with the Knicks," but they don't realize that it ALWAYS takes him a year of sucking with a new team to get on the right track, and then the second year is when they play well (with the exception of Detroit, obviously).</div> Tell me whats he's done then, please.
He's has one bad season, I say kgive him another chance to prove his worth. Winning a championship is a big deal you know. I don't care what team you have, coaching is one of the most important jobs to have in a franchise.
He took over the ABA's Carolina Cougars in 1972, and coached them until 1974.Year before Larry Brown: 35-49First year under Brown: 57-27Second year under Brown: 47-27Took over the ABA's Denver Rockets in 1974, stayed there until 1979 (Denver joined NBA in 1976).Year before Brown: 37-471st year: 65-192nd year: 60-243rd year: 50-32 (first year in NBA)4th year: 48-345th year: 47-35Coached the New Jersey Nets from 1981 to 1983.Year before Brown: 24-581st year: 44-382nd year: 49-33Coached the San Antonio Spurs from 1988-1992.Year before Brown: 31-511st year: 21-612nd year: 56-263rd year: 55-274th year: 47-35 (Not all under Brown, he was let go in January)Hired by the Clippers four weeks after Spurs fired him, coached for 1.5 seasons.Year before Brown: 31-51Year Brown was hired: 22-25 when hired, finished year with 45-37 record (first winning season in 13 years).1st full year under Brown: 41-41Coached the Indiana Pacers from 1993-1997.Year before Brown: 41-411st year: 47-352nd year: 52-303rd year: 52-304th year: 39-43Coached Philadelphia 76ers from 1997-2003.Year before Brown: 22-601st year under Brown: 31-512nd year: 28-22 (lockout year)3rd year: 49-334th year: 56-265th year: 43-396th year: 48-34And then we all know about Detroit and New York.Now, those are only his professional coaching accomplishments. I didn't even mention what he did in college.But while I'm at it, I'll add some of his accomplishments:<ul>[*]1010-800 NBA coaching record[*]1,416-968 overall coaching record.[*]Led the Detroit Pistons to 2004 NBA Championship[*]Compiled a 229-107 ABA coaching record[*]Compiled a 177-61 college coaching record[*]hree time ABA Coach of the Year (1973, '75, '76)[*]NBA Coach of the Year (2001)[*]Assistant Coach, U.S. Olympic team (1980)[*]Led UCLA to NCAA Championship game (1980)[*]Led University of Kansas to NCAA Championship (1988)[*]Named Big Eight Conference Coach of the Year (1986)[*]His 177-61 collegiate record ranks as the third-best of all time among NCAA coaches in their first seven seasons[*]Has recorded a winning record in 25 of 29 seasons on the professional and collegiate levels[*]Is the 11th NBA coach to reach 700 victories[*]Entering the 2005-2006 season, he ranks fourth on the all-time NBA victory list[*]Only coach in NBA history to guide six different teams to the playoffs[*]Named 1999 USA Basketball National Coach of the Year[/list]
you forgot to mention he also lead the Oakland oaks to the ABA championship in 1969 as a point guard. and a point guard is like a coach, he is the one who has to run the plays after the coache decides which play to run.
There were alot of doubters when people started noticing how bad the Knicks were.Alot of people said he was overated,he was put into the right situations and wasn't as good to be.When he left from Detroit everyone said they would stink without him.Hopefully next year he can get that horrible Knick team at least to 30 wins.
i guarantee that he will. he'll get at least 35. he will turn this around. WOW one bad season give me a fu*kin break.
