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  1. The Professional Fan

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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Way worse to hear the tone of his voice, fwiw
     
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    The Blazers overpaid for Roy. The Blazers overpaid for Aldridge.

    And they were talking to Camby about an extension?

    I really like KP and am glad he's the Blazers' GM, but if there's a financial side that he's ignoring--if HE is responsible for giving Aldridge and Roy so much money over the objections of the people who actually sign the checks--then I can understand why his bosses would be upset.

    I believed (and still do) that there will be a very limited number of teams that would be willing and able to give Roy and Aldridge large contracts this summer, and probably even fewer NEXT summer after the CBA is reworked. The Blazers paid both of those guys consistently with the current (expiring) CBA and have cost Paul Allen and his company tens of millions of dollars.

    If Paul Allen was fine with that, then it's just annoying to me because it makes those two guys all but unmovable down the line. If Paul Allen was NOT fine with it, and KP was the reason that those extensions were doled out, then (unfortunately) he might have to pay the price.

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    Ed O, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    I don't seee any ill will from Brandon ever since he got the max. (And even Roy's ill will was never close to calling management backstabbers.)

    So how exactly do you know that Vulcans (who did hire KP, that was a good move right?) gave control of the basketball side to KP and now have taken it away?

    It seems everytime a writer writes a bad rumor about KP, everyone calls the writer and the rumor garbage. But any bad rumor about Vulcan is legit? I haven't heard that rumor yet, which writer is saying management gave and took away power from KP?
     
    The_Lillard_King, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    GOTTA WIN SHIPS.
     
    EL PRESIDENTE, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    If Paul was not fine with it, it is hard to believe it would have happened. Paul isn't exactly known for being out of the loop.

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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Keep in mind Paul Allen is the High Priest of the Vulcans, he doesn't know shit about basketball, and he calls all the shots.

    As I've said all season, he's dying and has thrown out his rebuild promise for a sadly desperate shot at the single title that has always eluded him.
     
    MARIS61, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Come on Ed, very few players are unmovable and these two hardly fit that criteria
     
    Pinwheel1, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    i dont see how we overpaid for roy...you can argue aldridge, but roy? not buying it
     
    ehizzy3, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    To me this seems like a Hail Mary for Pritchard's future here. The firing of TP brought a bunch of issues to a head. It probably seemed clear to them that KP was essentially gone and they decided to take it public to try and mobilize public support as a last ditch attempt to pressure the Vulcans publicly.
     
    Blazer_Hippie, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Unfortunately, I believe you're 100% correct.
     
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    It doesn't matter what the team pays salary-wise if it is a big market.

    All Portland could offer was the max. The big money (product endorsements) doesn't come to players on hick teams. Roy is either very loyal or can't do the math.

    LA can offer the minimum and untold millions in potential endorsements (besides, Roy would still take it to play with his hero the anal-rapist).
     
    MARIS61, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Stopped reading right there. Do you live in Portland?

    EDIT - hmm ... I see you live in Seattle ... heh
     
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    +1.
     
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    god, I'm getting a bad feeling...almost like they are going to "liquidate" and move to Seattle.
     
    EL PRESIDENTE, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Under the current collective bargaining agreement, sure.

    What if there's a $50m hard cap implemented, with grandfathered salaries but phased in over five years?

    No teams COULD take on a $10m or $13m contract, even if they wanted to.

    Will the CBA be that restrictive? Probably not. But the Blazers, by extending the players without accounting for the likelihood that there will be a significant change, are setting themselves up to have been painted into a serious corner. And... for what?

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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    I've lived in Portland for about six months of my life... so what?

    Are you saying that people in Seattle are less able to understand the CBA and how it changing might impact how much a player should be paid?

    Or are you conceding that people in Portland are less able to do so?

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    Ed O, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Did I miss something?
     
    Pinwheel1, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    Well, if that's the case, I certainly don't mind having U-25 players like Roy and Aldridge locked up. Even with that, from what I've read, the owners are pushing to have all current contracts voided in the new CBA. That should make this summer VERY interesting considering the FA class, eh?

    So, what's your point?
     
    BGrantFan, Mar 22, 2010
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    Re: 2pm KP and Larry Miller Press Conference

    lol

    I started posting this earlier today. It's a Vulcan/PA plan to bring the team to Seattle. I said it tongue-in-cheek ... or did I?
     
    BGrantFan, Mar 22, 2010
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