Merged: My thoughts on this GM saga

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  1. MIXUM

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    I realize the fan base loves kpee. I really do. But i dont think the fan base realizes that hes not the answer in taking us to the next level. Theres 3 kinds of GMs in the NBA....

    1. Nash type who is the bad guy. hes brought in to be the bad guy. Make the moves the fans will hate. Start over.

    2, KP type who can scout and draft the team of the future. Hes gonna get things on track.

    3. the vet GM who finishes the puzzle. Thats where we are. Kp has taken us as far as he can.

    Now its time to bring in a guy who knows what pieces need to be added and who needs to be traded. With kp this team will never trade guys like rudy or bayless cause they are his babies.
    I hate kpee and am in a way sad to see him go but i understand. Allen is trying to win now and improve. Ive said all along kpee is just a average gm. Thats it. Nothing more nothing less. the reason he is so loved is because hes been part of the rebuild. After nash... anyone would look better. But the fact im seeing guys on here want to make tshirts and email vulcan to save kpee.... quite frankly dont get it. First of all, theres no saving kpee. its over. Accept it as soon as possible. The guy looked like a beaten dog yesterday. Listen to Miller, listen to Kpee. HE IS GONE. But I really think its for the better if you want the Blazers to win a title. He just doesnt have the GM skills to pull off lopsided trades that make him better. Not to mention it seems like half the league hates him. Nobody wants to see us get better. i know this is hard to accept and many of you will scream troll and i dont what im talking about but I told you last year... KP is over rated and not the right guy for us down the road. kpee would be great for the twolves, kings, nets, warriors ect. But with the group we have...
    you gotta start making tough unpopular choices. Trading guys like Rudy. Fans will hate it.... but it gets you closer to the ultimate goal. Also the reality of Oden. The new gm will have no ties to the gimp and wont hesitate to do what's needed.

    Its a very troubling time though. the future of this team is as clouded as it was 5 years ago. This team could take 2 vastly different paths. Making the playoffs now becomes even more important. next year will decide if we contend or are rebuilding sooner then many thought. i expect the GM and ALlen to do every thing they can to put a big time winner on the floor next year but if it fails.... the salary cutting will begin. I think allen just needs a breath of fresh air after this horrible season. A year ago we thought western conference finals... and today we hope for 8th seeds. That says it all if I were teh owner regardless of injuries. The Suns game showed why this core just isnt good enough.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Unless it rhymes with Leff Fretrie, who else is out there?

    If anything, it seems like Vulcan is trying to cut costs...maybe they don't see a window opening anymore and just want to remain profitable. If there is a GM change, they're going to get a guy to firesale the team, try to trade larger contracts away.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    thats dumb....

    theres no way they signed roy and la to those deals just to have a fire sale. in 2 years if we suck.... maybe. But are you kidding me? if anything I think allen wanst to see some progression. Vance even said that Allen is happy where the team is and feels like they are a year behind. Thats the real issue imo.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    and ive read numerous times.... lots of GMs envy this job and want it.

    you think allen cares about the money KP wants? no way. if he was doing a greta job... kpee would be payed.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Shouldn't he have a chance to do this before you decide he can't do it? (For the sake of discussion, I'll assume you're being serious.)
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Vulcan just signed Charlie Fucking Whitehurst to a 2-year/$10 million contract.

    I think this Pritchard mess is just business as usual for Vulcan. It's an incompetent organization.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Oden's injury + Paul's health scare came after they signed those deals. Those might have to do with the direction of the team.

    Also guys aren't developing as much as they expected (Rudy, Tell, Bayless, etc).

    In addition, the realization that other teams got MUCH stronger in response to the perceived 10 year dominance of the Roy-oden-Aldridge blazers which isn't really panning out so far.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Dude hes had 2 seasons. THE RLEC was a disaster. Hedo was a disaster. This season was a disaster. We are gonna lose camby for nothing now.

    You want round 3 next year?
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Maybe they're focusing on the seahawks.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    well i think rudy and bayless get traded this summer. no doubt
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Two seasons? Last year was a title contention year? You didn't even think the team could make the playoffs. Nice try, though.

    No it wasn't. It got Portland their starting point guard, a top-half starter.

    So Pritchard has learned not to purposely injure all his players. I don't think he'll do that next year.

    He's going to be a free agent the same as Blake and Outlaw would have been. DISASTER.

    I want round 1 with a healthy team next year, yes.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Rudy probably/maybe.

    Who's our backup PG if Bayless goes? (Steve Blake?)
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Brilliant.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Sadly I think you may be right.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    or is it... kp has done nothing amazing? getting roy and la were it.

    even rudy looks awful now
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    What about type 4) The Arm Chair GM? Do the Blazers need one of those?
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    Damn i hope so. I've been polishing up my resume for that one for years.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    A GM's best move is often the moves they don't make. I prefer Andre Miller to Vince Carter or Richard Jefferson. So, I think the RLEC, in hindsight was handled best. Don't make a move just to make a move. Unless you know of some great deal that KP had an opportunity to make, penalizing KP for not making a move is unfair. As for the Hedo matter, meh... He swung on a FA hard and thankfully missed... No GM is perfect. I trust KP more than any other GM. He knows first hand what this team was 5 and 6 years ago. He won't make the same mistakes that got us to our low point. We are Portland, we are not LA. We are never going to attract the prime FA. We should be thankful that we have been relevant for almost 80% of the last 30 seasons. I never want to see what we had 5 or 6 years ago again. I do want to contend for the championship, but it is a cost-benefit analysis. I don't think this team needs to make a high-risk trade. We need another scorer besides Roy, but we have the makings of a very good team and I believe that Oden WILL have success. We need to build around Roy and Oden.

    To me this team's biggest weakness on the team (assuming some normal health level on the team) is a 2nd option to Roy in the 4th quarter. We traded Travis and I would have thought that someone, Rudy, Batum, anyone would have filled that role. Nope... I think audienorris (and if I have the poster wrong, sorry) has been saying it for a while, but our 4th quarter offense is the biggest problem in the team in my book. Another problem of course is long term depth at the Center position. Oden has injury issues but should be healthy for training camp and who knows what happens with Joel. I hope that KP or whoever the GM is can address the lack of a 2nd go to guy in the 4th quarter this Summer and either resigns Camby or has a good plan B to shore up the front line.

    KP has earned another year, but if he gets canned and the next GM does worse than KP, then what MIXUM? I think you are just assuming that if KP is gone that the next GM will do better. I would much rather trust the bird in the hand then the imaginary snipe in the bush.
     
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    Re: My thoughts on this GM saga

    i cant say how good the new gm will be but i do not believe kp is the answer. hes good at finding talent but thats where it stops.
     
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    All he can do is find talent? Damn. If only talent mattered to winning.
     

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