Fuck this healthcare Reform...

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  1. RR7

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    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Who do they fund?



    Do you mean like Kevin from Norway?

    "I" am the world overall. It's made up of a bunch of "I's"
     
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    It talks about the shortage of doctors and the disincentives for treating people whose care is partly paid for by the govt.

    It does say this:

    If the new health care means lower reimbursement rates or bulky administrative structures making hospitals and providers wait for payments, that could "amplify" the shortage by discouraging young people from entering the profession, Billings said.
     
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    So, it doesn't say any doctors are thinking of quitting? Gotcha. Thanks for the read I guess.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  6. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Love the retro scare tactics. It's so 2006.
     
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    Why is that relevant if they don't have money to pay them?

    That's like you asking what language they have their research published in... it doesn't matter.

    Bull. It's made up of systems and knowledge and people.

    Systems and knowledge exist outside of the collection of individual "I's".

    Ed O.
     
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    For better or for worse, we now have healthcare reform. Something had to be done with healthcare in the US. I'm not in any position to know if this was a good or bad for the healthcare system, but I do know Obama has done what a line of presidents couldn't do. This is history being made and we are living in it.

    I'm sure whether you opposed it or were for it, at this stage we are all hoping it works. :cheers:

    GO USA!
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    If you can't see what's happening here, its classic Marxist theory. The proletariat (unprotected class) has revolted.
     
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    I guess my point is there is nothing that can be done to stop the healthcare legislation at this point, so why not hope it works out?

    But, no I'm not a history buff and can't see what is going on here other than a president trying to solve a problem that probably can't be solved.
     
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    Work out to what?

    The seeds are planted, we are on the path to sweeping new socialist policies, all in the name to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
     
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    "Working out" is ambiguous.

    The people who want to redistribute wealth have different priorities than others. What works for one will not necessarily work for the other... and it might be close to a zero-sum game.

    If everyone is covered but there's a doctor shortage and the US no longer has AAA bond ratings (partly due to this massive expenditure that will continue in perpetuity) is that "working out"?

    From the perspective of the champions of the previously uninsured: yes.

    But should we all hope for that?

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    I want it to work out so that I don't hear stories anymore of elders having to choose between health care and eating. Between paying for perscription pills or paying rent.

    I guess we can find fault in the people (the hundreds of thousands if not millions of them)for putting themselves in that situation and tell then to fuck off and die. Or we can try to help these citizens get decent healthcare.

    If helping these people is being a socialist, then paint this country red and stamp socialist on the flag because this country is about to help the sick in a monumental way.
     
  16. OddEnormous

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    They fund doctors is the correct answer.




    Your asking a lot of people to care about innovation they can not partake in.



    BTW I have health care though work so I'm not speaking in selfish terms.
     
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    certainly the path we are headed down.

    Pretty soon, we'll all get our soma.

    next up....what if you can't pay your rent or housing? time for the government to take care of you now! EDIT: WAIT, we were already there.
     
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    You're right, it is ambigious. Working out to me is that everyone has healthcare and it doesn't bankrupt this country or decrease the level of healthcare for all.


    Again, probably an impossible task, but that is what I hope works out.
     
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    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Sweet, We've come full circle.

    Ahem...

    SCAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYY WOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRDS....
     
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    its very easy to see where this will lead: Behavioral Control.
     

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