Not Sure I Like This Remark So Much...

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  1. ABM

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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    A natural reaction from a team's best player; these guys want and need to control the destiny of their respective teams and when things go off the rails when they weren't the one controlling the rock, it's easy to see why he would say this.
     
  3. ABM

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    OTOH, it could be a thinly veiled knock on Miller.

    jus sayin' ;)
     
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    Yeah, I'd hate to win 4 titles, be the defending champs, and still have Roy be 5 points lower in usage than Bryant (Roy is 7 points lower right now).

    I don't understand why people on this board don't want their best player to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
     
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    Well, that seems stupid. Roy's usage is about the same this season as it was last season (.5 lower). How is that a knock on Miller? Expand, since you started this thread.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I'm sure there are other alternatives. How 'bout, 'Man, I should've played better defense,' or 'Man, I should've taken better shots,' or 'Man, I should've attacked the rim more,' or 'Man, I should've done a better job involving my teammates,' or...

    There are many ways a player can positively impact a game without "having the ball more". I can understand ABM's concern about that particular lament.
     
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    also........

     
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    Jordan had an average usage rate of 36% his first four years in the league. Roy is under 26%. What the fuck is your point? That Roy should be more like Dwyane Wade, who actually won a title in his 3rdwith a usage of 32.5%?

    I still don't get the "Roy is selfish" bullshit I read here, but this takes the cake.
     
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    Many times this season I've seen Roy get the ball near the end of games and the offense simply stalls. Yes, it's a bit concerning.

    I saw some similar stuff during last season's playoff series with the Rockets. Soon after that, Roy cried, "Get me some more players!"
     
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    DUB Da, da da, da dah!

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    Too late.
     
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    You have a problem with how Roy played against the Rockets?
     
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    IMO, he attempted to put the entire team on his shoulders. In the end, he couldn't handle all that weight. Fatigue set in.
     
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    Frankly, when I read the full quote, it doesn't bother me as much.

    "When we lose, I'm like, 'Man, I should've had the ball more,'" Roy said. "But when we win, I'm totally fine playing off the ball. We're just trying to find that balance of my having the ball, but not overdoing it."

    The key is that Roy is intent on winning, and when the team loses, he starts to feel like he didn't do enough to make the team win. That's how a leader should think. Does that mean the solution is having the ball in Roy's hands more? Not always - but I'd want Roy to be demanding the ball, if things go awry.
     
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    Things go awry with Roy, as well.

    Personally, I'd rather the team win or lose the team approach (ala Sloan style).
     
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    He played as well as any other All-Star in the playoffs, with a lesser usage rate. What is the point of this thread?
     
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    Sloan has never won a title.
     
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    The Blazers lost their playoff series. Personally, I thought a little less Roy might have netted a different result.

    That's just me, though. ;)
     
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    No thanks to MJ. :) (BTW, Roy's no MJ...and never will be.)
     
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    A little less Roy, and a little more who? I ask because the point of your thread seems to be solely to criticize Roy.
     

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