Not Sure I Like This Remark So Much...

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  1. BGrantFan

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    Didn't you start this stupid thread? What does "we shall see" mean? That you'll be hoping that Roy fails?
     
  2. KingSpeed

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    Your first post makes no sense, ABM. Basically you're saying that when we lose, Roy should take less shots. Cuz that's all Roy was talking about. He was talking about games in which we lose. You left out thise part: "But when we win, I'm totally fine playing off the ball." How do you have a problem with that?
     
  3. EGame

    EGame "You're the only one of these fools I trust"

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    MIXUM 2.0?
     
  4. KingSpeed

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    This disproves ABM's theory:

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30337647/ns/sports-nba/

    ABM is saying that when Roy gets the ball a lot, it's bad for the team, but in the game in which Roy had his career playoff high, we WON the game. It was the most important game of the series. If we lose, we get swept. Lesson to be learned: More Roy, not less.
     
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    Seems like it, huh? In a passive-aggressive sort of way, though.
     
  6. ABM

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    What I'm kind of sensing him saying is, "When the games are close near the end of games, I'd probably better be taking most of the shots for fear of losing. However, if it works out differently, and we somehow win, then that's cool."

    ....or something like that. :lol:

    It's all good, fellas. Ol' ABM hasn't lost it. Just generating some friendly banter, that's all.

    OK, me's gotta hit the hay. 5 AM comes earlier and earlier.............
     
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    That's not what he said in his original post. He mentioned Roy going "Kobe" on us.
     
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    I don't know what Roy said to KP after the Houston series, but if he did tell him to get some help, that was a perfectly intelligent and mature response.
     
  9. EGame

    EGame "You're the only one of these fools I trust"

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    I was kidding. Time to not take things so seriously, yo.
     
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    I don't mind the ISOs late in games because teams are going to collapse on him and someone is going to be open, and Roy will kick it out. What I dislike is that we as a team depend on the ISO plays (as well as the pick and pop) throughout the majority of the game until just recently.
     
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    ABM made no sense whatsoever. Roy has a problem with not having the ball in games that we LOSE. He hates losing. If we lose, he feels he should've done more. That's a GOOD THING. He has absolutely no problem with sharing the ball as long as win. But facts are facts, we won in the playoffs last season when he was aggressive and not the other way around. If we lost the game in which Roy scored 42, he would have some sort of case, but that's not what happened.
     
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    Ask Roy. I'm just not understanding your point. Who should have had the ball against Houston? Outlaw missed the biggest three of that series, as I remember it. Was that Roy being too selfish? Blake missed another huge three. Roy's fault?
     
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    I guess I don't get your point then, since the conversation evolved almost immediately into talking about the playoffs.
     
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    So Roy's got a pretty sweet gig. When we win, he doesnt care about his stats because we won and he's all about winning. But, when we lose, its because he didnt get the ball enough because his teammates didnt pass to him? Or does he genuinely feel guilty for not being more assertive in games we lose?
    I gave Roy a lot of credit when he said, during his hammy thing, that Miller figured it out before he did (how to complement one another). Was that just lip service?
     
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    I don't see how Roy has a sweet gig. He's a 3-time All-Star who revived a dead franchise, and he still has threads like this that criticize him, and posters like you who question him from afar.
     
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    Fair enough. :cheers:
     
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    You don't think being the franchise player on an NBA playoff team is a sweet gig? Damn where do you work?
     
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    You don't know, just like I don't know where you work. Tell me where your work, and I'll come watch you and judge your performance. I realize that Roy is paid more than handsomely, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a "sweet gig" unless you have a certain type of personality. And my opinion is that being a franchise player takes a "me first and fuck the critics" mentality.
     
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    Well if Roy doesn't have that personality then it makes it even more of a "sweet gig". Because he'e getting paid like a basketball player who should have the "me first and fuck the critics" mentality. But does he?
     
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    I'm saying he does have that personality. I'm saying that you and I don't.
     

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