Merged: Marc Stein: Blazers in talks with Camby about extension now!!!

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    I have thought this for a while. I would love to bring him on as a coach. But he is adamant on playing one more year, that I know.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm thinking Minny would be a decent trade partner. That team needs shooting at the guard and wing spots in the worst way (especially if they are intent on running the triangle) and having Rudy might be a nice inducement to getting Rubio to commit to coming over. In that situation maybe we try to ply one of their hundred spare point guards from them -- Sessions springs to mind as a true, pass first, pick and roll point guard miscast in the triangle. That might not qualify as a huge "splash" but it could be a nice pick-up and give this team an heir apparent to Miller who wouldn't be a total rook at the position.
     
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    Sessions ain't worth Przy or Rudy alone.
     
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    Next up: sign Howard to a vet. minimum deal?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I guess I disagree, his first three years in the league when he played in strictly pick and roll systems (mostly under Skiles) he flourished and posted very good numbers (number of trips to the line, assist percentages, field goal perncentage, etc.) and only when placed in Minny's bizarre, bastardized version of the the triangle (which needs floor spacers at the point guard spot and a usually a dominant large guard or wing) that he really struggled to produce.

    Let's face it, Pryz's career might be over, and Rudy is nothing all that special. Certainly if there was a Rudy plus Joel package floated out there more would have to come back to us because the salaries wouldn't match (unless Minny still has cap room to spare) but you vastly overrate Rudy and Joel's worth all things considered.

    http://www.82games.com/0910/09MIN2.HTM

    His on/off numbers were some of the highest of any Minnesota player (despite a drop in his own individual production)
     
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    No reason to do that early.
     
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    I have never viewed Sessions as a pass first guard, and I don't think he solves anything here. In fact, I would go so far as to say not many players in Minnesota solve anything here.
     
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    I think we could get something far better than sessions for pryz and rudy
     
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    I agree. I'd be very happy to get Sessions for a JPEC/Rudy package. I've felt Sessions was a young Andre Miller type, and I'd be pretty happy with having him here as a backup for the next season or two, learning from Miller.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Assist percentages of 43%, 30% and 25% (not surprisingly the lowest with a team with no weapons to pass to).

    He would be a 'buy low' kind of player if we traded for him, but I think in the right system he could pretty easily get back to his PER of 17 that he averaged his first two years in the league.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Like who? Rudy has regressed in a big way, and Joel's career is very much in jeopardy given his age and the severity of his injury.
     
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    I'm not a huge Sessions fan, personally, and don't see him and Bayless being a good piring off the bench for us, with Bayless in the more scoring role. I think a deal of Joel for Hinrich would be more beneficial on many fronts. The deal works financially, and it saves Chicago a little over a million on the cap this offseason. Also, with a cheaper owner in Reinsdorf, having an insurance covered contract could be nice. Hinrich can float between the 1 and 2, like Bayless. He plays solid defense on PGs, but also on SGs. You can realistically have him and Bayles son the floor, and not lose out on either end. He'd space the floor better than our other guards currently, which would be beneficial if we got rid of Rudy. He's also got playoff experience. I didn't love the idea of grabbing him last year, before we got Miller, but off the bench, I think he would be a great pickup. He'd also provide good insurance in the unlikely event that Miller got hurt, as you can start eithe rhim or Bayless at the 1, and still have a backup combo guard on the bench. I'd trade Joel for him, and look to make a separate deal involving Rudy, and either Martell, or on the offchance we can S&T for Bosh, then Rudy and Aldirdge.

    I like a 4 guard rotation of:

    Miller/Hinrich
    Roy/Bayless
    Think of situational defense of Hinrich, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Oden.
     
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    S&T JPEC/Rudy for Ray Allen. Win now. Bring him off the bench as instant offense. Celts will tear down and rebuild after this season, Allen is a FA.
     
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    TREC did help us get Roy and RLEC (-> Miller).
     
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    No need to re-sign howard. Now, more than ever with Miller and Camby both likely done in 2 years (or earlier if age gives in) we need to load the pipeline. Get high risk high reward young players at the PG and PF/C to fill out the 14th and 15th spots on the roster.
     
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    Bring in our Brit and our Finn. High risk players, but possibly high-reward, too.
     
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    Looking like the holdup is that the Blazers and Camby inked an incentive laden deal with bonuses that are almost too easy to reach. So easy in fact, that the league sees it as and attempt to pull a fast one on them and manuver around the salary cap so the tax the Blazers will have to pay next year when they are OVER the cap will be less.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Dammit. If only Tom Penn had been here to work up this contract.
     
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    Poor Joel...odd man.
     
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    Gotta feel for Joel. With two ruptures of his tendon his career is hanging by a thread.
     

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