Jerome Randle

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  1. hasoos

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    Bayless is one consistent outside jumper away from being very hard to handle. The only reason teams can handle him now is because they give him the jumper. If he gets that nailed down, then they can't back off him, they can't cheat on screens, and they can't switch a big on to him. That is when his game will open up.
     
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    So I guess I should change my signiture to read "Right, since 2008"
     
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    I haven't seen him play so I can't sit here and say draft him or not but he certainly looks to have the quickness and court vision to play in the NBA. I didn't think Collison would be very productive and he turned out to be great for a rookie. I would like to see us pick up a PG in the draft or through a trade/FA because Andre, as great as he has been for us, is old. Bayless is more of a two that CAN play stints at PG but I don't like him for our PG of the future right now.
     
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    Miller had a subpar playoff, outside of one game. Steve Blake had a higher playoff PER last year than 'Dre had this year.
     
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    Really?

    You really are going to go with the Steve Blake is better in the playoffs than Andre Miller take?

    Feel free to put a self imposed ban on yourself...
     
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    I only posted a stat. However, Blake shot better, rebounded better, and averaged more assists than Miller did this year, and he had more assists playing a much slower paced team in Houston.

    If Blake was bad in the playoffs last year, then the stats say that Miller was just as bad, or even worse outside of Game 1, than Blake was last year. Plus, Blake put up those stats with literally half the usage % of Miller (12.6 for Blake/25.2 for Miller). Feel free to offer a counter argument outside of telling me to ban myself. ;)
     
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    B/c I'm not as familiar with the Usage Rate stat, does a higher or lower usage affect PER and efficiency secondarily? I mean, if someone's putting up 10 points on a 10% USG, is that better than 15 in a 20% USG?
     
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    According to this article: http://basketball-statistics.com/bl...ndersoutside-shooters-and-interior-defenders/ PER takes Usage% into account when generating PER. Given how some players who come in off the bench for a few minute a season have incredible PERs, I'm assuming you're correct that 10 points with a 10% Usage rate is better than 15 with 20%.
     
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    1) Miller forced the Suns to put their best defender on him after game 1, with the game plan to only focus on slowing Miller down.
    2) Blake had Brooks guarding him, and not needing to pay much attention to him.
     
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    Miller continued to play as if he had an advantage, though. he didn't, and he hurt the team because he couldn't get past Hill's length, and he couldn't shoot over him because he can't shoot.

    Miller was very good in the regular season. He stunk in the playoffs. Hopefully he rebounds next year.
     
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    Hurt the team compared to what? Having Blake instead of Miller? Having neither of them? What?
     
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    Miller was incredible for us this year. Blake was terrible. End of story. Don't bring up 6 games of playoff statistics to try and downplay Millers importance to this teams success this year. Without Miller we don't win 50 games....not even close. Dumbass.
     
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    Poopyhead!

    'Dre was subpar in the playoffs and awful after game one. He did very well in the regular season. Whoopedy doo. That didn't mean shit once the playoffs started, and he still can't guard anybody.
     
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    He hurt the team after Game 1 by playing like shit. Unless he is absolved of any criticism, and only Aldridge gets to be hammered for failing to play well? Of course, LA still had a 17.6 PER, but he's still to blame. Maybe if Miller hadn't played like shit we'd have forced a Game 7.
     
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    You're not answering the question.

    Hurt the team compared to what? Having Blake instead of Miller? Having neither of them? What?
     
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    Wrong thread! Jerome Randle Jerome Randle Jerome Randle!

    Seriously guys, if you want to argue Blake/Miller, make a new thread.
     
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    Simple logic. If Blake hurt the team last year in the playoffs, then Miller hurt the team this year. I only offered stats. I made no other analysis other than their similar statsshould mean similar criticisms. You're asking a question that has nothing to do with my post.
     

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