Rudy Gay may be available for S&T

How many players' PERs are affected by your theory? Couldn't it be said that your theory holds true for every statistic? PER actually evens it out over time. I don't think it's a good indicator in an individual game, but I've never seen that argument made for PER anyhow.

 

I think Rudy Gay is the one player that guarantees a Minstrel reply.

 

There are 3 separate arguments here.

Is Gay more versatile offensively than Outlaw? No question.

Is Gay a more efficient scorer than Outlaw? The evidence doesn't support that.

Is Gay a better team player than Outlaw? All evidence points to an emphatic no. Every indication is that Gay expects a star salary and star treatment....even though he hasn't earned it.

 

I think more than you think there are....

I would use Aldridge's playoff performance as one example...I think that is where the disconnect comes from just analyzing his playoff PER and then looking at when he actually was\wasn't scoring and the result of that in the game at that time...

 

He had Martell Webster and Travis Outlaw to work with for his first 4 years. Batum looks to be an improvement, and his PER is elevated over those two, but Nic is still a raw player who is developing his game.

Seems more about the players so far at SF than it does the system. Nate proved he could take a young 2nd rounder and let him flourish at SF in Seattle with Lewis.

 

Why did I at first read this title as, "Rudy's Gay and may be available for S&M"?

 

ask Dr Freud

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Something about my id?

 

according to 82 games.com, Brandon played 12.5 MPG at SF last season posting a 24.8 PER. Was he being underutilized while doing so or were you just trying out a new angle to blast away at a Blazer head coach?

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Masbee has been against attempting to bring in Rudy Gay to the Blazers for at least a year as his name keeps poping up.

It isn't a good fit on the floor - we don't need in the starting unit an inefficient scorer who doesn't excel in other areas. He wants too much money for his worth. We just don't suit each other. Look somewhere else.

By the way, a great fit for our team is a strong perimeter defender, who shoots the 3 very well, and has enough offensive game besides (mid range, ballhandling, slashing) to have his moments as part of the offense.

Or, in other words, take Batum's best month in the NBA, expand that to 35 min per game, and for an entire season, and we have our guy.

No telling if Batum can do it - but by showing for a time that he can, he and we are half-way there. Unless we bring someone WAY better than Gay in, I don't want to logjam Batum's spot.

 

Man, Rudy Gay might be the biggest "fools gold" player in the NBA; he looks like a phenomenal talent; great size, great first step, NBA body, elite athlete, fluid, effective dribbler, shot looks pretty good mechanically and when you add it all up? He's a shitty passer, doesn't play defense, settles for bad shots and does nothing to make his teammates better. People are right that he does look a lot better than Travis and if you were to judge each player by their aesthetics Gay would win by a mile, but when you compare what they actually contribute it's nearly a wash.

Some team is going to be pretty upset in about 3 years when they're paying this guy 14 million a year and feeling like they got robbed.

 

I disagree. Gay is featured because he has that kind of ability, Outlaw doesn't. It's that simple. If Outlaw had that kind of ability Webster wouldn't have been starting all those years the Blazers weren't a playoff team.

Done with this argument. Obviously we see things differently.

 

While thats my guess as well at how they delineate positional PT, I don't see much difference between the roles Rudy Martell and Batum play on offense. Despite what letters (SF or SG) appear beside their name in the listings, they play like traditional wings on offense. Generally speaking their role is spread the court with their perimeter threat to compliment post players and slashers, and to make the occasional backcut. If these guys were better ballhandlers/playmakers we'd see them initiating the offense more. We did see a little of this with Rudy and Nic, but it wasn't that successful so that responsibility fell to Brandon Andre and Bayless. While I've pretty much given up on Martell becoming anything more then a spot up shooter on offense, I'd love to see the other two focus on developing better handles and passing ability as doing so would only add to the effectiveness of Portland's attack. But blaming Nate for putting them in roles that suit their current skill-sets and compliment the team's attack is just

Going into this season, Nate's stated plan was for Rudy to be more involved with running the pick and roll. While we saw some of this, of course he struggled with the back injury that eventually required surgery. His shot and play was not what it was the year prior... hopefully thats truly behind him. Hopefully Nic takes another step towards emulating his idol Pip and earns a bigger role on the ball too... I'm sure that Nate (or any HC) would be happy about having his young talents improve their skills. If they show this improvement in practice they'll get to show it in games.

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