This is an interesting comparison, both of these guys were main options offensively for their teams at one point in their career. For Stack it was Detroit/Washington/Philly and for Toine it was Boston. When used at these main options, the teams these guys played for never really turned out that well. Both saw some playoff runs but nothing that ever came into anything special. I would take Antoine mostly because he can do more. He is a guy that can average a good amount of points but he can get the rebounds and the same amount of assists that Stackhouse can. Both these guys have bad shot selection and should be passing most of the time they are shooting. Stack in his prime was one of the best one on one players in the league but never really did anything as a main option. Stack did put up impressive scoring numbers, but that year he averaged 29.8 ppg he also averaged over 4 turnovers a game. With all that being said, I would say that these guys have been doing fairly well coming off the bench. They still show the same flashes of their strengths coming similar to when they were used as main options. Since their minutes have diminished their weaknesses haven't been showing as much as they could if they were playing more minutes. Who would you guys take?
I'd take Stack, and as both were or are Mavs players, I'd hope I am being unbiased.Stack, at least right now, is accepting his role as a role player, and not THE focal point on the team.He's the better player of the bench, and brings a spark off the bench that Walker just can't do.
Stack. He can actually be consistant, I find him being able to score easier than Walker. Walker is a chucker. I agree with everthing Marvin said also
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ May 14 2006, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd take Stack, and as both were or are Mavs players, I'd hope I am being unbiased.Stack, at least right now, is accepting his role as a role player, and not THE focal point on the team.He's the better player of the bench, and brings a spark off the bench that Walker just can't do.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lazy @ May 14 2006, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stack. He can actually be consistant, I find him being able to score easier than Walker. Walker is a chucker. I agree with everthing Marvin said also</div>And i agree with what both of you guys siad. I cant really add anything else, they practically covered it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjcolpitts @ May 14 2006, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And i agree with what both of you guys siad. I cant really add anything else, they practically covered it.</div>Good to know we are all on the same page :happy0144: .
Definetly Stack. Jerry is the better shooter, more athletic, better defender. Walker is just a overweight, let's jack up 3's everytime down the floor type of guy. For that reason I would not want Walker on my team. Look at Stack he would be a starter on a different team but he is ok being a role player with Dallas.
I take Walker when his threes are falling.Because that's when he got his game going... it gave him confidence... and when he's aggressive, he can play solid D, rebound well, he's an above-average offense facilitator, runs the floor well.
Walker and defense should not be in the same sentence.And I get him being a very good player when his 3's are falling...but that's far and few between...he's too much of a chunker for my liking.
I'd pick neither and they are very similar statistically. Both make dumbass decisions and hurt your team. Walker is at least a good rebounder though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He's the better player of the bench, and brings a spark off the bench that Walker just can't do.</div>I agree with you in the fact that Stack is probably the better role player coming off the bench. But Antoine can be a nice spark sometimes, if his shots are dropping and he is in the groove he can be very hard to stop. If he's on his game he can be an exciting player to watch.
Stackhouse because Walker has a poor shot selection, they both have big egos though that hurt both of them
This is easy for me. Jerry Stackhouse. He is a great scorer off the bench and a very talented offensive player who does not hog the ball or shoot way too many 3's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ May 15 2006, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd pick neither and they are very similar statistically. Both make dumbass decisions and hurt your team. Walker is at least a good rebounder though.</div>You keep on going and going on about his dumb mistakes, without ever mentioning that good stuff he does for us.How about this, when he does something to help the Mavs win the game, like make a game winning shot, or steal, or rebound...than you come on here and say something good about him.Basically, just give him credit where credit is due...then noone would say crap to you when you say he's made a mistake.I know he's made some bad plays, but the guy is a big reason we've been in all 3 games, and had a chance to win 2 of them, along with Dirk, and Harris.
I would go with Antoine Walker since he can knock down clutch shots one after the other. JStackhouse is good, but he can miss shots that Walker would normally make.
I would take Walker because Stack is pretty much just a scorer. Yes, a very very good scorer and I love the guy, but Walker has the more complete game no question. I always say this: "I'm not one to compare by stats" but Walker with the Celtics was a PF that gave you 20+ points, 9 boards, and even 5 assists. They have both been All-Stars (Walker-3, Stackhouse-2) as well. Walker is better in the clutch as well and has incredible heart/passion on and off the floor. He is always cheering on the team on the court or waving a towel. He hustles his ass off as well and has really gotten himself into decent shape. Antoine is also a great guy off the court, always joking around, loves to keep in touch with his family and kids, great to the fans, great interview, etc. I would take Walker and forbid him to take more than 3 three's a night. But if it were a singing contest I would definitely take Stack haha.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ May 15 2006, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You keep on going and going on about his dumb mistakes, without ever mentioning that good stuff he does for us.How about this, when he does something to help the Mavs win the game, like make a game winning shot, or steal, or rebound...than you come on here and say something good about him.Basically, just give him credit where credit is due...then noone would say crap to you when you say he's made a mistake.I know he's made some bad plays, but the guy is a big reason we've been in all 3 games, and had a chance to win 2 of them, along with Dirk, and Harris.</div>I call it like I see. Neither shoot well or play defense. Both are dangerous offensive players when their shot is on. Walker wins because of rebounding.
That's all fine and good, but Stack is way more consistent with his offense, and shot than Walker, and is way more Clutch.Plus, Stack is playing better with the Mavs, and it wasn't that long ago that Toine' was on this team, and didn't do so well...So Stack would be the better player.
Dallas wasn't doing well with Walker because they had no center. Raef Lafrentz was the only respectable center and was lost. Everyone in the lineup was offensive minded and no defenders. Walker off the bench is different if he backs up Nowitzki and Howard while we continue with the Diop and Dampier at center.
Exactly. Antoine was put in a bad position in Dallas and his numbers didn't look great because he was in a much different system, way more fast pace, and also had way more scoring options over in Dallas (Dirk, Nash, Finley) as opposed to just Pierce in Boston. Whole different situation, system, schemes, speed, and conference.
