Sixers possibly shopping #2 pick according to Ford

Can Turner play PG full time? I know he played PG/SG at Ohio State but I really don't like the idea of moving Batum to the bench. But then again, I think we're getting ahead of ourselves here. I think landing the #2 pick is a long shot.

 

PG: Turner
SG: Roy
SF: Batum
PF: Camby
C: Oden

/pipedream

 

I agree with this. The only reason to move up to the top 3 in the draft would be to get Wall or Cousins.

 

Agreed, if they want to move Brand with the #2, they can't expect talent like LMA back in return. Connecting Brand with the pick is diminishing its value.

And I wouldn't take Turner, either. I just don't see anyone trotting out Turner, Roy, Batum as our starters. I think I'd offer up the 2 and matching salaries to Memphis for Mayo and their pick. I think Mayo at the 1 in our offense would fit better than Turner.

Something like we get Mayo, Brand and Lou Williams, give up Joel, Andre, Rudy, Martell, Bayless and #22.

Memphis gives up Mayo and #12 for #2 and Martell.

Philly gives up Brand, Lou Williams and #2 for #12, 22, Joel, Andre, Rudy and Bayless.

Meh, not gonna happen.

 

So we're talking about blowing up the bulk of our team is some of these scenarios. I don't really see that happening, unless.....

KP is gone.

In which case, I could see someone like Warkentein coming in here and trying to put his stamp on the team immediately. Warkentein LOVED Zach Randolph and Al Jefferson when he was scouting for the Blazers. I could absolutely see him trading up to take Cousins, who seems like a similar player to me. I would swap LMA and Prz for Brand and Cousins. I think adding a healthy Brand and a talented Cousins to back him up, makes us a potent team next year. If Brand goes down, Cousins starts. No big deal.

Miller/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Batum/Webster
Brand/Cousins
Oden/Camby

I think that's a very good basketball team. We gain some inside scoring, we get a healthy Roy, Oden, and Batum back in the fall (fingers crossed), and we can still make a deal involving Rudy if we need to. I like the trade, and if Warkentein takes over, I could very easily see it happening. It all just depends on who is captaining this franchise in a couple months.

 

If they do get Brand I hope we hear all about Elton Brands Expiring Contract for an entire year.

He should just put EBEC on his uni.

 

Brand certainly looked good against the Blazers.

It's not worth giving up LaMarcus, though. Why is everyone so down on him? He's incredibly versatile, a very solid team defender, and an ideal player next to Oden.

I don't think we have what it takes. You know who might? OKC. Because they can just absorb Brand's contract into their capspace. Philly wants to cut salary.

(I also wonder if Doug Collins' hire changes things. I can see him wanting to see if he can get more out of Brand before moving him. Coaches are much more likely to want a seasoned vet like Brand than some project.)

Here's the ceiling of what I would offer:
Camby, Miller, Webster, Joel's contract and assorted non-salaried goodies (rights to Freeland/Claver? Future picks?) plus possibly Rudy or Bayless
for
#2, Brand, Dalembert

(I think that works salary-wise but you can't use TradeMachine to check it)

I think Doug Collins would love that (Miller and Camby) and Philly would win enough to make the playoffs and bring the fans back, which they really need to.
For us we would be shafting Camby and Miller (and I wonder how Miller would feel about going back to the team that was too cheap to sign him) and taking a risk without both, but I both Dalembert and Brand can play C for us alongside LaMarcus, and their games are much more suited to Nate's plodding ways than to the systems that were used in Philly.

 

Joel + Bayless + Martell for Brand works. I think this would give us the best possibility of moving forward. We would have awesome depth.

Miller
Roy. Rudy
Batum, Turner
LMA, Brand
Camby, Oden

 

I'd pull the trigger on a Brand & #2 for LaMarcus trade. We might have to throw in some of Pryz/Martell/Rudy to make the salaries match.

Even though Brand is owed over $51 million the next 3 years, LaMarcus is owed over $35 million, plus he has two additional years for another $29 million. So the salaries arn't terribly different. Don't get me wrong LaMarcus is a better player and a better value, but I think the #2 pick is worth more than LA on his own. Brand is an acceptable PF, he just can't carry a 76ers team as the #2 option, but if he just has to be one of the top 7 players on the team he'll do fine.

Turner would be awesome on this team and I believe he could play well with Roy. Turner is the best player in this trade and I'm always in favor of trades that send the best player to Portland.

 

There is no way Philly trades the #2 pick if the best player they get back is Bayless. Might as well try to trade Cunningham for Iggy....

 

I don't really see how Turner and Roy would play together, and I know Roy wouldn't approve. Just give him a damn PG that can defend and shoot the 3, while being a better ball handler and passer than Blake.

Conley might fit that, but I think the Blazers can do better.

 

Explain to me why we'd give up a very good, versatile, young PF AND take on a MASSIVE contract for a possibly terminally damaged player just to get a swingman when we already have Roy and Batum? It'd be like trading LaMarcus for Joe Johnson. Why would that improve us?