Merged: Lakers vs. Celtics

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, May 29, 2010.

  1. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2008
    Messages:
    16,260
    Likes Received:
    829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Hood River, OR
    I think about 90% of the fans who got hit that day deserved it. ESPECIALLY the ones on the court, going down there to start crap. Bad decision by Ron Ron, but man I can see someone losing their cool and going up there.
     
  2. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,207
    Likes Received:
    3,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    so Kobe is going to be guarding probably the fastest/quickest player in the league to be run off umpteen picks on every set on one end and then be expected to carry the offense on the other? I sure wouldn't opt for that as an all game strategy if I'm LA, but then I don't think they have a good option vs RR.

    *edit* In an alternative universe where they'd have kept Ariza instead of signing Artest I'd like this matchup better for LA. Ariza could have shadowed/bothered Rondo, Fisher on Allen, and Kobe on Pierce. No way can Artest keep up with Rondo

    STOMP
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2010
  3. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,798
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    Student.
    Location:
    Miami, Florida
  4. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,977
    Likes Received:
    297
    Trophy Points:
    83
    2008 has nothing to do with this series.

    Lakers have home court advantage and the best player in the series. I like their chances.
     
  5. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,207
    Likes Received:
    3,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    almost all the same players from that finals matchup are back. Whats the old truism about predicting the future?
    okay, but Kobe was an even better player back when he was 29... right? While the Lakers and Celts both have multiple vets on the decline side of their careers, only Rondo has since entered his prime.

    btw... Cleveland had home court advantage on the Celts as did the Magic.

    STOMP
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,592
    Likes Received:
    56,024
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    I hope they seriously hurt each other in a brawl, and get banned from the nba.
     
  7. Patriot

    Patriot Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    The Lakers will be way better than they were in 2008. Sure we lost Ariza, but we'll have Artest and Bynum this time. All the Celtics have is a better Rondo, which will get shut down by Kobe.

    HCA is a plus for the Lakers. They know how to project it, ESPECIALLY in the playoffs. I don't see Lakers losing any home games.
     
  8. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,977
    Likes Received:
    297
    Trophy Points:
    83
    The Celtics are the same basically minus a very good wing defender in James Posey and Rasheed basically being PJ Brown. Posey was huge for them. The Celtics are also older and not quite the same players they were, mainly KG.

    Last time Gasol and Odom were the starting front court with Radmanovic(lol) the starting SF. Now it's Bynum and Gasol with Odom coming off the bench and Artest the starting SF. Big difference.

    Idk, the way Kobe is playing right now I'd say he's better. 9/10 games he's score over 30pts and just got done torching the Jazz and suns. He's on fire right now. At worst it's a wash.

    I'm not really sure who is declining on the Lakers other than Fisher. Everyone else is pretty much the same. Gasol is actually arguably a better player now than he was in 2008 imo.

    Things are different this time around.

    Doesn't help them this series.
     
  9. Patriot

    Patriot Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Fisher has been playing great so far in the playoffs. (It's when he shows up)
     
  10. BigVolcano

    BigVolcano Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,015
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I like the Lakers better but I really want Bynum to the Raps... So go Celtics!
     
  11. TripTango

    TripTango Quick First Step

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2009
    Messages:
    3,235
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    I'm not sure I see the connection -- does Bynum have a "will be banished to Toronto if Lakers lose to Boston in 2010" clause in his contract?
     
  12. Biggie

    Biggie Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    8
    I hope the Celtics win this too. They're playing some great basketball right now.
     
  13. BigVolcano

    BigVolcano Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,015
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    38
    No but it greatly increases our chances. I don't see LA making a huge change like that if they win the 'ship.
     
  14. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Boston players I hate:
    Kevin Garnett
    Paul Pierce
    Kendrick Perkins
    Rajon Rondo
    Rasheed Wallace

    LA players I hate:
    Kobe Bryant
    Pau Gasol
    Lamar Odom
    Derek Fisher
    Andrew Bynum
    Sasha Vujacic
    Jordan Farmar

    Boston - 5
    LA - 7

    Go Boston.
     
    PtldPlatypus likes this.
  15. ehizzy3

    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    6,339
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Hillsboro/Bogotá
    go boston
     
  16. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,276
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If there's a better way to size up a finals matchup, I haven't seen it. Repped!
     
  17. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,207
    Likes Received:
    3,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    Powe is probably a bigger loss for them then Posey or Brown. Sheed more then replaces Brown and Tony Allen + Marquis Daniels are a wash for JP... Big Baby has taken some of the minutes that Leon garnered but he's not been as good.

    the Celts are older? Fisher is 35, Kobe 31, Artest 30, Odom 30, Pau 29... Bynum is just 22 but he's been struggling with injuries and is a major question mark, so my best guess is he'll be contributing off the bench in limited minutes. If so their starting 5 averages 31 years of age.

    The Celtics starters ages are Rondo 23, Allen 34, Pierce 32, Garnett 33, Perkins 25... average age of 29

    here's a link to the box scores from 2008
    Artest's PER is 11.4 for the playoffs... I know his D is still pretty good but I don't see him as a much of a deterrent to Pierce's perimeter game/a big difference. Using PER as an overview of offensive effectiveness, this past season's 12.1 was the worst year of his career... both his season and playoff PER ratings are actually below Vlad's in 2008. He certainly doesn't spread the court as well... why no mention of departed Lakers Turiaf or Ariza?
    it's undoubtably easier to focus on scoring when you're guarding Grant Hill and CJ Miles then trying to stay with any of the Celtic's main guards/wings.
    Are you going to go with the PER is BS and only your personal observations are admissible argument or can we look at stats which we actually can compare? If you do place value in that measure (PER) as an overview of whats what, then you'll be surprised to learn that Kobe Odom Pau Fisher and Ron Ron all posted higher PER ratings during the 2008 season. Bynum has improved, but again he's a question mark on what he'll be able to bring because of injury
    we shall see

    STOMP
     
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2010
  18. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,798
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    Student.
    Location:
    Miami, Florida
    http://twitpic.com/1qsga3
     
  19. kobeownslebron

    kobeownslebron 14-6

    Joined:
    May 17, 2010
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Texas
  20. kobeownslebron

    kobeownslebron 14-6

    Joined:
    May 17, 2010
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Texas
    Lakers in 6 bitchez !
     

Share This Page