This Oil Spill Is Now A Tragedy Of Epic Proportions

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by ABM, May 30, 2010.

  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,328
    Likes Received:
    25,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    Well, of course. Hell, every time it snows here it is THE STORM OF THE CENTURY.

    Well, if industry doesn't want to be regulated, there's a real simple solution: stop fucking up!

    not sure exactly what you were meaning to say there, but it isn't realistic to expect most people to care more about what happens on the other side of the globe as compared to what happens at home. The impact on American lives, and our economy, from this spill is going to be much larger than the impact from a similar spill in Angola.

    barfo
     
  2. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But it's not being couched (as much) in terms of "impact on lives and economy"--I wish it would. Instead it's being held up as "GLOBAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT", when in reality it's localized, and nowhere near as large or deadly as some other spills around the world. But now it's being held up as the poster child for why the government needs to crack down on Big Bad Oil.

    Want to enforce stringent testing and maintenance requirements for drills? No Problem.
    Want to make sure that heavy penalties are levied for even minor infractions? I'm all for that.
    Want to set up Federal Park areas in our most fragile ecological areas? Let's do it.
    Want to let the Government use this to show that oil = environmental disaster if not stopped? Not so much on board with that one.
     
  3. Blazerfan22

    Blazerfan22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2008
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    http://industry.bnet.com/energy/10004661/the-gulf-oil-spill-worst-case-scenario/

    Obama did stop drilling for now in some spots...

    Read the whole article! Give you some perception on how big this really can become and is heading that way.
     
  4. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I haven't really seen it being mostly discussed as "global environmental impact" (though there is some impact to the globe, as the Angola spill had). I see more of the consternation being about the effects on people. Even your sarcastic "Dead shrimp!" points to that. That "dead shrimp" thing is about Louisiana shrimpers' livelihood being destroyed for the foreseeable future. So if your problem with the coverage is that not enough attention is being paid to local effect on lives and economy, it's odd that you would mock that particular thing. ;)
     
  5. TradeNurkicNow

    TradeNurkicNow piss

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,196
    Likes Received:
    676
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    hell
    Location:
    shit
    I'm guessing you could find 100 people before lunchtime in L.A. that don't give a shit.
     
  6. Colonel Ronan

    Colonel Ronan Continue...?

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2007
    Messages:
    19,410
    Likes Received:
    169
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    Control Center analyst
    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I still can't believe people are just letting this happen.
     
  7. Blazerfan22

    Blazerfan22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2008
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Link

    Looks like its moving faster than anticipated. This is some serious stuff going on.
     
  8. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    When it starts affecting the polar bears, people will care more. When it hits the glaciers in the arctic, it'll surely cause them to melt and all the coastal cities will be under 100 ft of water.

    But seriously, I'm really starting to think this is another case of "let's not let a good crisis go to waste." For decades, they've had technology like soap or burning the oil to deal with spills. I don't see any of that going on here.

    https://ceprofs.civil.tamu.edu/rhann/links/tools.asp
     
  9. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,785
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    No way. Those would have detrimental environmental ramifications.
     
  10. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,191
    Likes Received:
    6,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Gear Finisher
    Location:
    Lebanon, Oregon
    It sucked ass because Nate is a one-dimensional coach with an unhealthy ISO(tope) fixation...
     
  11. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,191
    Likes Received:
    6,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Gear Finisher
    Location:
    Lebanon, Oregon
    Look at the bright side. Al Gore says the oceans will dry up, then we won't have to drill through all that water.
     
  12. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    And having an SUV will be awesome for driving over the new rough terrain.
     
  13. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,191
    Likes Received:
    6,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Gear Finisher
    Location:
    Lebanon, Oregon
    Especially if I can patent my idea for an internal combustion engine that burns Styrofoam...
     
  14. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Regardless of whether or not we should be drilling offshore (I think we should be maximizing our drilling efforts), the efforts to clean it up are going to be a textbook on what not to do. From here on out, the answer should be that all hands are on deck when it comes to the cleanup--BP, the Federal Government, the Coast Guard, the state National Guards, fishing vessels, etc. Also, every single option should be executed--dropping hay to absorb the oil, dropping dispersants, skimming oil and seawater into tankers, capping the well, pumping excess oil into tankers, building seawall barriers, etc. Rather than one big fix, execute a number of small ones and see which ones work. Don't worry about where the ideas came from or whose in charge.
     
  15. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,328
    Likes Received:
    25,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    That's cause you haven't been paying attention.

    link

    barfo
     
  16. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    16,056
    Likes Received:
    4,031
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tualatin
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OIL_SPILL_MYSTERIES_OF_THE_DEEP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-05-31-17-11-56

    Perhaps this has been played by the media to hype.

    and an interesting, for what it's worth point

     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2010
  17. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,303
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  18. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    124,881
    Likes Received:
    145,148
    Trophy Points:
    115
    [video]http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/37464824#37464824[/video]

    Might be years before it's fixed.

    Ouch!
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2010
  19. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    I see a trend.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't like a ton of things the Prez has done, but I don't really fault him much for this one. That said, why did he do in mid-April to get a 4% spike?!?
     

Share This Page