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  1. pjcolpitts?

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    Ok, most Maverick fans watch every game they play. I know i've had to of only missed a handful of games this season. I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that the Mavericks really dont get a ton of dunks except on breakaway ones. We almost never get dunks in the halfcourt unless its a dunk by Diop or Dampier off a missed shot. I almost never see Daniels, Howard, Dirk, or Harris dunk when they drive in. In some of those cases, they could easily throw down a dunk, but they almost always just lay it up. Stackhouse is the only one that i've notice take it in and dunk it with authority during the halfcourt offense. Harris has has a few dunks earlier in the season, but not a ton of them. I think other teams get more dunks than us. We almost NEVER get any alley-oops. The only one i even remember seeing is the one from Harris to Stack last game. I was wondering if anyone else noticed this. I know it has nothing to do with athletic ability because Daniels, Howard, and Harris can run and jump with the best of them. Like i siad before, anyone else notice this? I know its not a big deal, but i was wondering if there is actaully any reasoning behind this. I dont know if Avery discourages this or what. Anyone know or care?
     
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    I remember seeing a few dunks by Harris, actually great dunks, where he raised really high, really fast...but yeah, I don't see tons of Dunks in our teams play.
     
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    The fact is Dallas's players aren't strong enough and are afraid to get hurt. Diop got a dunk last game. Harris, Terry, Howard, and Nowitzki are anything but strong.
     
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    Huh? Do you mean strong, like they aren't big enough or heavy enough?I dont' think Dirk, Howard, or even Harris, for his size, are pretty strong guys...So is Stackhouse, as he drives down low all the time, forcing his defender toward the basket before stepping back for a fallaway jumper.
     
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    Stackhouse and Griffin are strong. The rest are extremely athletic but I wouldn't consider them strong. Strong enough but weak compared to most players at their position. Dallas has no problem dunking when there aren't players ready to hit them at the rim but avoid contact because of this.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Stackhouse and Griffin are strong. The rest are extremely athletic but I wouldn't consider them strong. Strong enough but weak compared to most players at their position. Dallas has no problem dunking when there aren't players ready to hit them at the rim but avoid contact because of this.</div> Because of the ability of getting an and 1 is diminished. But I'm not comprehending what this thread is about, are you saying Mavs don't dunk a lot? I've seen plenty of dunks this year by everyone. I think it's not as high as some teams because we try to get the and 1, I mean how many times have we got that. It's just our focus to drive and try to create CONTACT mavsfan(I don't know what your saying about avoiding contact) and drawing the foul as well as enabling themselves to put up a shot for the chance at the and 1. Dunking the ball can get you the and 1 also, but it's more difficult. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The fact is Dallas's players aren't strong enough and are afraid to get hurt. Diop got a dunk last game. Harris, Terry, Howard, and Nowitzki are anything but strong.</div> Again mavsfan, I don't get what your saying, Harris and Terry are two small guards who have the ability to dunk the ball, not many pg's can do that. Both have had some wicked dunks and Harris' has been ferocious is some of his slams. And they weren't open layins for dunks either by them. If Mavs were not strong enough, they would not be driving and would settle for outside jumpers out of fear of getting hurt. From what I've seen were not, so don't say stuff like Mavs aren't strong enough and are afraid, that's bullsh**. We didn't shoot 50 free throws the other game shooting jumpers.
     
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    Those players are afraid of getting knocked on their ass. Amare Stoudemire is strong and athletic. That is why he is always dunking on people. Layups are better because you usually don't get hit as much.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Those players are afraid of getting knocked on their ass. Amare Stoudemire is strong and athletic. That is why he is always dunking on people. Layups are better because you usually don't get hit as much.</div> No their not, if they were they wouldn't be driving. Finishing with a layup or dunking does not make you any less weak or afraid of driving into the lane, because your going to have contact either way.
     
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    Stackhouse is getting older. When he was younger, he was one of the best finishers in the league.Howard is very versatile, but oh well about not as many dunks. I'd rather complain about Harris making more passes instead of shooting (maybe it would work?) too many times.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ May 16 2006, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because of the ability of getting an and 1 is diminished. But I'm not comprehending what this thread is about, are you saying Mavs don't dunk a lot? I've seen plenty of dunks this year by everyone.</div>The reason i made this thread was to ask if anyone had noticed that the Mavericks dont get a lot of dunks in the halfcourt offense by wing players. I know they get thier fair share of breakaway dunks and dunks by Diop and Damp, but not many by the wings. We dont get a lot of alleyoops either. I was just asking if anyone noticed this. Thats all.
     
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    Avery doesn't have many plays for alley-loops and like I said you usually get hit pretty hard if you try to dunk. Stackhouse fits the type of guard that can dunk but his athletcism has descended. Howard is skinny and injury prone so he avoids contact. Those are my best answers.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Howard is skinny and injury prone so he avoids contact. Those are my best answers.</div> Yes Howard avoids contact [​IMG] . <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We dont get a lot of alleyoops either. I was just asking if anyone noticed this. Thats all.</div> Alley oops are more of a fancier play, I think Avery tends to shy away from those, and in part we don't have a real good passer that can set up lobs.
     
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    Well dunks are easier to miss than layups so I guess they are just more careful
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ May 17 2006, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes Howard avoids contact [​IMG] .</div>There is nothing wrong with avoiding contact. Tracy Mcgrady does that a lot also. Wade is one of the few that doesn't but look how strong he is. It takes that type of strength and having no fear to dunk on a regular with people being there.
     
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    Howard doesn't avoid contact, when he goes up for rebounds or drives, he receives contact. If he wanted to avoid it, he would just stand on the three point line.
     
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    I'm talking about direct contact like a big center about to knock you on your ass if you try to dunk on him. You will get contact for layups as well but not direct contact. It is safer to lay it up because unless you are very strong the big men are not going to get out of your way.
     
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    I think the Mavs should to the Punkin'-a-Duncan strategy by getting 10th-12th Man to foul him.TNT said Bubba Wells did something like that in 5 minutes.
     

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