Jerry West Talks NBA Finals

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    Hall of Famer and Lakers legend Jerry West played in six NBA Finals against the Celtics. He also acquired Kobe Bryant on draft day in 1996. Is there anyone better to ask about the 2010 NBA Finals and Bryant's role in the series?

    West on how he thinks Bryant will perform in the Finals:
    "He's playing the best basketball I have ever seen him play, to be honest with you. When he shoots shots a lot of people would probably think they are bad shots ... he can make tough shots. He just seems to will the ball in the basket. I've never seen him play better. ... He's the greatest Laker player that we have ever seen."

    West on whether the current Lakers are smug:
    "I don't necessarily buy smugness. They're confident. They are like, 'If you want to win, you are going to have to beat us.' ... I have great respect for the Celtics, but obviously I think the Lakers should be favored and I think they will win."

    West on the Celtics:
    "They're an enormously proud franchise. They always competed at the highest level. They take great pride. ... I think this promises to be an incredible series between two very proud franchises."

    Source: ESPN
     
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    Jerry West saying Kobe is the greatest Laker we've ever seen is a huge compliment.
     
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    Somewhere, Magic Johnson sticks another pin into his Kobe voodoo doll.
     
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    The Logo man. :)
     
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    Not really. To me, it just seems like West always washes Kobe's balls because he likes to look like a genius.
     
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    You're just jealous he isn't washing your balls. Admittedly....I'd let The Logo wash my balls.
     
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    West shouldn't be the Logo.
     
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    It's the truth.
     
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    West also said LeBron is better than Kobe.
     
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    Kobe or Magic are better logos than West.
     
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    Jerry West claims he's not so presumptuous as to assume his image is
    depicted on one of the most recognizable emblems in sports: the NBA logo.

    The NBA too is coy.

    Alan Siegel is not.

    "It's Jerry West," he says.

    Siegel, 71, designed the familiar logo in 1969, taking a Wen Roberts
    photograph of the Lakers star and turning it into an iconic image.

    In red, white and blue, it shows a player in silhouette purposefully
    dribbling the ball upcourt with his left hand.

    Siegel, a branding expert and lifelong basketball fan, believes he knows why
    the NBA is reluctant to acknowledge the obvious.

    "They want to institutionalize it rather than individualize it," he says
    during an interview over lunch near his office in the Chelsea neighborhood
    of Manhattan. "It's become such a ubiquitous, classic symbol and focal point
    of their identity and their licensing program that they don't necessarily
    want to identify it with one player."

    NBA Commissioner David Stern, through a spokesman, declines to comment,
    saying he doesn't know whether West is on the logo.

    "There's no record of it here," spokesman Tim Frank says.

    Siegel's original artwork has been lost over the years through several
    office moves, but the designer recites the story of the logo in detail. In
    1969, Siegel and his business partner, the late Robert Gale, opened their
    branding consultancy.

    In a previous job, Siegel says, he oversaw development of Major League
    Baseball's logo, which was developed in 1968 and introduced during
    baseball's centennial in 1969. It too is red, white and blue and features a
    player - a batter - in silhouette.

    It's no accident, Siegel notes, that the logos are similar.

    He says that J. Walter Kennedy, the NBA's commissioner from 1963 to 1975,
    told him that "he basically wanted to have a family relationship with
    baseball and to use red, white and blue to position basketball as an
    All-American game."

    Siegel says he came up with 40 or 50 designs, none of which featured any
    players other than West, but Kennedy gravitated toward the derivative of the
    baseball logo.

    "And in those days," the designer says, "it was top down. He made the
    decision. There was no research. There was no discussion. He said, 'We're
    doing this.' "

    Siegel, 6 feet 2, was a star basketball player at Long Beach High on Long
    Island. He says he turned down dozens of basketball scholarships to attend
    Cornell, where he left the basketball team after one season to concentrate
    on academics.

    A childhood friend, the late sportswriter and broadcaster Dick Schaap, also
    was a Cornell graduate. And later, when Siegel was searching for an image to
    use in the NBA logo, Schaap gave him access to the photo archives at Sport
    magazine.

    "I found this picture of Jerry West dribbling down the court," Siegel says,
    "and, of course, growing up in New York and my father having season tickets
    for college and pro games at Madison Square Garden, I'd seen West play a
    lot."

    West, in fact, was one of Siegel's favorite players - along with John
    Havlicek and Oscar Robertson - but that's not why he chose to feature the
    former West Virginia star in his design.

    The photo, Siegel says, just grabbed him.

    "It had a nice flavor to it," he says, "so I took that picture and we
    traced
    it. It was perfect. It was vertical and it had a sense of movement. It was
    just one of those things that clicked."

    Kennedy thought so too.

    "Nobody else said anything," Siegel says. "And when we did the publicity,
    nobody ever asked whether it was Jerry West.

    "If you did it today, they'd want 50 designs. They'd get focus groups and
    test it. They'd make a whole big deal about it and they'd probably end up
    with a design that wasn't as good."

    West, calling it "awkward" to comment on the logo when the NBA won't confirm
    he's on it, remembers thinking when he first saw Siegel's design, "That
    looks like somebody familiar."

    Siegel, a Knicks season-ticket holder for more than 30 years, says he twice
    met West, once at a restaurant in Los Angeles and more recently at a Lakers
    game at Staples Center.

    At the restaurant, Siegel says, "I introduced myself and told him I'd
    designed the logo. And he said, 'Who was the commissioner then?' I said,
    'Kennedy,' and he said, 'OK,' and went on with his lunch."

    At the game, "he was sort of friendly but noncommittal, so he's never really
    said anything to me about it," Siegel says.

    In a new biography, "Jerry West: The Life and Legend of a Basketball Icon,"
    it's noted that West is not above jokingly introducing himself by saying,
    "I'm the logo."

    Today, he demurs: "If that's me, I'm extremely flattered."

    But of course it's him.

    In recent years, some have suggested that the logo be updated, that perhaps
    it should feature Michael Jordan.

    "Fine with me," West says.

    Siegel says no.

    "I'm a fairly sophisticated marketing guy," he says, "and I think something
    that's so well-known and symbolic of high-level basketball around the world,
    it would be a mistake to change it.

    "It has significance and appeal because it's historical. It doesn't look
    like a modern player. It's a classic image."
     

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