Kobe plays, While All LeBron Can Do is Talk

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  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    -- It's June again, and by now the script is getting awfully familiar. Kobe Bryant is in another NBA finals, providing the kind of star power the league relies on to make this must-see TV.

    LeBron James? He'll be on TV, too, pouring his heart out to the familiar guy in suspenders.

    What? Oprah's couch was unavailable?

    The King on CNN's "Larry King Live" should draw respectable ratings, too, if only because all of Cleveland will undoubtedly take time off from singing his praises to listen to his pronouncements. They'll dissect every sentence he utters, rewind the DVR and listen again and again.

    Thanks to King's publicists, we already have a hint of what he will tell the people of Cleveland. It's not much, just tidbit that might keep their summer from being ruined just as it was starting.

    The city, it turns out, isn't so bad after all, James says: "It's comfortable. I've got a lot of memories here."

    Why those few words carry so much importance, of course, is that come July 1 the player who made Cleveland semi-cool will have a chance to flee for the Big Apple or any other place with an NBA franchise. They're even more important because, since being unceremoniously ousted from the playoffs, James has said nothing about his future plans.

    Not when Cleveland's elite got together to sing a song imploring him to stay. Not even when Cleveland's own Iron Chef offered to go to his house once a month and cook a meal for family and friends.

    It matters that much in Cleveland. The very soul of a much maligned city seems to be at stake.

    This wouldn't play in LA. Then again, James isn't playing in Los Angeles this June, either.


    Bryant is, however, for the third straight year. That by itself is a remarkable streak, even if you subscribe to the theory that Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom help make up a far better supporting cast than Mo Williams and Shaq.

    If the Lakers win this one - and the wise guys in Vegas have made them the favorites - Bryant will wear a fifth championship ring and likely will be part of conversations matching him against Michael Jordan as one of the game's greatest players.


    James isn't in that conversation. Won't be, unless he starts winning some titles.

    Great talent, sure. Great player, too, at least when it comes to winning regular-season MVP awards.

    But greatness is measured by titles won, not awards bestowed. History has a habit of rewarding winners and James still doesn't have a ring after seven years in the league.

    By that time in his career, Bryant already had won three titles. And though he may have lost a half step in recent years, he has reinvented himself with a different cast of characters.

    Like James, Bryant is revered in the city where he plays. Unlike James, he's made sure he is still playing when it counts most - in June.

    Bryant has taken a team that looked dysfunctional at times during the regular season and all but willed them into the final against the Celtics. He's done it in a businesslike yet purposeful manner, revealing as little about his playoff thoughts as possible.

    To hear Bryant talk, it doesn't matter that the Lakers and Celtics are playing for a title for the 12th time. Doesn't matter that he and his teammates can extract some revenge from their loss to the same team two years ago.

    Doesn't matter that Phil Jackson can cement his lock on greatest coach ever by winning his unprecedented 11th title with two different teams.

    All that matters is that the Lakers win.

    That's the singular focus of great players. So far, James hasn't managed to zero in on that, no matter how much he wants it.

    That's why Bryant will be the most watched player on the court Thursday night when the Lakers meet the Celtics at Staples Center. It's also why the only way you'll see LeBron these days is to tune in to a cable talk show.


    I won't be watching because I've already seen and heard far more about James than I can safely digest. I'm tired of the incessant speculation about his future, tired of watching the people of Cleveland keep embarrassing themselves.

    Call me when he wins a title.

    Source: Washington Post
     
  2. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    One plays with Pau, the other doesn't.

    /story.
     
  4. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    LeBron is starting to get killed by the media.
     
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    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    One was crowned King before ever proving shit on a championship level, one wasn't

    /your bullshit
     
  6. Sex Panther

    Sex Panther works every time.

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    That was a funny article.

    Anyways, when a guy is dubbed the best player in the league, he should expect everything that comes at him (such as this article).
     
  7. CelticKing

    CelticKing The Green Monster

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    one is right up there after MJ and the other is not even top 10 all time

    /all debates.
     
  8. Sex Panther

    Sex Panther works every time.

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    In all fairness, Lebron has only been in the league for what, 8 years? I don't think anyone cracked the top 10 that young.
     
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    CelticKing The Green Monster

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    he thinks he's top 3 and the media talk about him as top 2, right after MJ. (but yeah media is dumb 99% of the time)
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Only 7, which is impressive. ;]

    Wojo's a flip-flopper and melodramatic
     
  11. kobeownslebron

    kobeownslebron 14-6

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    Nice excuse it's funny how everyone said Cleveland had the best team and were favorites to win it all and then LeBron chokes and suddenly he doesn't have enough help.
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Boston is very good, I don't consider that a choke.

    A choke is losing to the Hawks, Bobcats, Warriors, etc. :)
     
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    kobeownslebron 14-6

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    If your talking about all time greats then LeBron is defintely not top 10.
     
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    kobeownslebron 14-6

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    Dude when everyone has you as the favorites and you lose in the 2nd round that's a choke.
     
  15. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Who did we play in the second round? The East is just much better at the top.

    And it is a team choke, btw.
     
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    Sex Panther works every time.

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    Isn't that what I said?
     
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    Sorry bro, but I gotta agree, he choked just like the rest of those Cavs. But he choked to a great team, nonetheless.
     
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    It is very debatable. First because he played excellent considering total contribution, and second because of the injury.
     
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  19. AKIRA

    AKIRA GO LAKERS!!!

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    i dont think its debatable at all. And i dont see the merit in this argument. they are both very good players, kobe is playing in the finals and lebron is not, but lebron was playing in the finals when kobe wasnt so that is a stupid comparison to make of two players.

    its true that the lakers are a better team with pau in the mix, but its not as if lebron is playing one on five either. beefore joining the lakers pau hadnt won one single playoff game, if my memory serves me well. if anything kobe has made pau a better player, along with the rest of the team, especially artest and shannon. you could probably make the same argument for lebron too.

    So to all those using Pau as a scapegoat/excuse to downplay kobe's merit, you are gravely mistaken and need to go back a few steps and realize/learn how to assess the game of basketball.

    lebron is great kobe is great, but theere are too many years in between them to compare their careers, lebron is still starting off, whether it is taking him a long time to achieve a finals win is another argument. Kobe is still in an extended period of his prime play, not many players have achieved this so give him credit for doing so, but he was cocky and stupid much like lebron is, and ill give them both that, kobe grew out of it, lebron im hoping will too. only time will tell.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Congrats on the win tonight guys!
     

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