Ford's mock draft 5.0 (Insider)

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draf...ory?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-100616

    Has us taking Whiteside if we stick at #22, but has us trying to jump OKC, SAS (among others) to get to Boston's #19 pick for Solomon Alabi.
    Boston at 19:
    POR @ 22:
     
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    I don't trust Alabi, maybe he'll be great but I've seen a few breakdowns of his game (Hollinger's draft rater and Thorpe's analysis) and both guys suspect he'll be a bust. That's certainly not ironclad, but it does give me a lot of pause when I see his name mentioned as our target.

    The other question is this: What does this say about Greg's future with the team? Or does this say more about Joel's status and Camby being 36?
     
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    You also have to watch out for smokescreens. This is about the time KP was 'after' Serge Ibaka but was really targeting Nic Batum.
     
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    I think the latter. Of course Greg's injury history is going to be on the front burner of everyone's mind, but I think that they're penciling him in going forward for 65 games a year of 20+ PER and a big-time Drtg and TRB%, which I don't think is unreasonable. At that point, you just need someone who can come in and play defense for the White Team--in the mold of Joel or Camby. I think Joel has officially become JPEC now, and Camby (as you said) is a war-torn 36.
     
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    Not overlly surprising to see POR go for a big man, for one this draft is relatively deep for big men, not usually the case.....

    and given Oden's injury woes to date and Camby and Przybilla's ages and contract status, grooming a back up big man is very important for the team long term.....
     
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    We need a defensive minded back up center and a PG for the post-Miller era.

    My thinking is that if we do not move up, we will take Dominique Jones. A big PG who will defend and seems to be moving up the board. If we move up in the draft, I see us after a center.

    One off thought is SG. Roy is oft injured, Rudy may be leaving and Bayless is too small for SG. I wouldn't be surprised if we take a sharp shooting SG.
     
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    I think it's more likely that we pick up a big, or a PG. Other than Turner, I don't see us going for a SG/SF. I mean, Webster can back up both Batum and Roy and has shown he deserves minutes if for no other reason than his commitment to D. Bayless may or may not be gone, but he can play the 2. If all else fails, you can go after Redick this summer. I don't see us looking at Paul George or Pondexter (though I like him a lot) or Jones.
     
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    My only problem with Webster as a backup SG is his ball handling skills. They seem fairly poor for that position.
     
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    I agree that another shooting guard would be valuable, but I imagine we'll be more likely to try to pick up a vet on the cheap in free-agency (such as Toney Douglas or Keith Bogans) rather than pick up a rookie.
     
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    While Ford tends to get decent info at times, he always seems off on who we actually like.
     
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    And I like that idea.
     
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    I have a theory, totally unsupported by facts or research, that picking a center outside of the top-3 is pointless. Starting caliber centers go at the very top of the draft, and the rest of them are slapped with the "project" label and rarely amount to a more productive career than the journeyman 7'ers available every off-season or for cheap at the trading deadline.
     
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    I would rather pick up JJ Reddick. He actually played a bit of point last year and did quite well off the bench. I believe him and Bayless could be a killer combo off the bench.
     
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    Sure, I'd love Redick, as long as we get rid of Rudy. Obviously he'd cost more than the other guys I mentioned, but it'd be less than MLE, and he'd be worth it.
     
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    Brook Lopez went 10th in the 2008 draft. I'm not sure what the means other than the scouts of many teams missed on him.
     
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    I'm all for Portland picking another big guy, but I'm not sure they've already locked in on a center. Alabi is only two months younger than Oden, in particular, so unless they think Oden is REALLY broken, I can't imagine they'd take a project that doesn't seem to have that much upside.

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    Hollinger was definitely not a fan of Alabi. He put him in the 'dud' category with a projected per of +9.
     
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    2008: Brook Lopez at 10
    2007: Joakim Noah at 9,Tiago Splitter at 28, Marc Gasol at 48!
    2005: Andrew Bynum at 10
    2003: Kendrick Perkins at 27
     
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    You've got company. Here's Hollinger's take on Hasheem Thabeet:
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?playerId=4016

     
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    Splitter hasn't entered the league yet and Perkins is barely better than the journeyman group always available, so how many busts were there over the 7 years you went back to find those 4 examples?

    Nice find!

    I guess you could extend top-3 out to top-10 and cover nearly every center worth a damn, but going that deep is bound to turn up a ton more busts than home runs, and that gets us nowhere near the low 20's we're looking at this year.
     

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