Point Guard - The most overrated position in the entire NBA by fans

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by tlongII, Jun 18, 2010.

Moderators: 6

Moderators

  1. BrianFromWA
  2. Chris Craig
  3. Darkwebs
  4. Ed O
  5. PtldPlatypus
  6. SlyPokerDog
Page 1 of 2
  1. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,251
    Likes Received:
    11,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    We just saw it again. Nobody would argue that Fisher is superior to Rondo, but guess who won? That's right.
     
    tlongII, Jun 18, 2010
    #1
  2. 44Thrilla

    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2004
    Messages:
    14,113
    Likes Received:
    216
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I am Rondo's biggest fan, but Fisher was arguably better than Rondo in that series. Rondo wasn't even being guarded for most of the series, plus his FT numbers were historically terrible.
     
    44Thrilla, Jun 18, 2010
    #2
  3. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,251
    Likes Received:
    11,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    No argument there, but Rondo is clearly a better PG.
     
    tlongII, Jun 18, 2010
    #3
  4. 44Thrilla

    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2004
    Messages:
    14,113
    Likes Received:
    216
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Oh yeah, I obviously agree. But he needs to spend 3-4 hours a day working on his jumpshot or he will never become any better than he is now.
     
    44Thrilla, Jun 18, 2010
    #4
  5. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    30,704
    Likes Received:
    6,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In the Lakers case the triangle and Kobe function as "point guards." You still need somebody or some mechanism to set the offense and there's nothing overrated about that.
     
    Nikolokolus, Jun 18, 2010
    #5
  6. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I think Kobe overrides Fisher v. Rondo.

    Nash seemed to do the trick for the Suns until they met up with Kobe. Boston took down Clevland and Orlando . . . because of the PG? Take Kobe and the Lakers out of the equation and the star PGs led their teams pretty far this season.
     
    The_Lillard_King, Jun 18, 2010
    #6
  7. BigVolcano

    BigVolcano Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,015
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    38
    That's you're argument?
     
    BigVolcano, Jun 18, 2010
    #7
  8. CelticKing

    CelticKing The Green Monster

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    15,334
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Shaqachusetts
    Rondo has to work on his free throws, my dad cannot understand how he doesn't make them. Every other PG in the league does. :(
     
    CelticKing, Jun 18, 2010
    #8
  9. bodyman5001

    bodyman5001 Genius

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2008
    Messages:
    2,147
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    auto collision technician
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    bodyman5001, Jun 18, 2010
    #9
  10. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    +1.
     
    Minstrel, Jun 18, 2010
    #10
  11. BGrantFan

    BGrantFan Suspended

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    5,194
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Elite PG additions win titles! :ghoti:
     
    BGrantFan, Jun 18, 2010
    #11
  12. BGrantFan

    BGrantFan Suspended

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    5,194
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'll ask it again, since it was never answered last week. Which elite PG "addition" has won an NBA title for their team in recent years. I'll extend it to which elite PG has won a title since Chauncey Billups, who is no longer an elite PG?
     
    BGrantFan, Jun 18, 2010
    #12
  13. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    9,418
    Likes Received:
    97
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I call bullshit and here is why. I didn't believe it at first, but the other day a site put up the listing of top ranked guard tandems in playoff history. The #1 combination was Kobe and Fisher. All time. Plus I would also remind you I don't consider Rondo elite. Very goood, but not elite. He can't hit an outside shot. If he can hit an outside shot, then he will be elite.
     
    hasoos, Jun 18, 2010
    #13
  14. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How the fuck can someone who has been playing basketball for so many years and is in the NBA not shoot a free throw or jump shot? Especially a point guard. It is absolutely ridiculous and makes me not like him for some reason.
     
    VanillaGorilla, Jun 18, 2010
    #14
  15. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    Magic Johnson.
     
    Denny Crane, Jun 18, 2010
    #15
  16. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Magic Johnson was 6'9". There's a difference.
     
    VanillaGorilla, Jun 18, 2010
    #16
  17. Blaze01

    Blaze01 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2004
    Messages:
    2,106
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    48
    :tsktsk:

    Tony Parker...in 05' and 07' when he was NBA finals MVP.....

    http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=NBA_Finals_MVP_Award_Winners
     
    Blaze01, Jun 18, 2010
    #17
  18. BGrantFan

    BGrantFan Suspended

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    5,194
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    BGrantFan, Jun 19, 2010
    #18
  19. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why does it matter how or when a point guard was added to a team?
     
    VanillaGorilla, Jun 19, 2010
    #19
  20. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,403
    Likes Received:
    6,325
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Lakers won the title with a broken-down, over-rated center. I guess that means the Blazers are a team of destiny!

    When Roy becomes as good as Kobe, we can revisit this argument.
     
    oldmangrouch, Jun 19, 2010
    #20
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page