Is Chris Paul the trade KP is working on?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This is already being talked about in the Hornets forum, but it's still very interesting.

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/jun/18/grizzlies-draft-plans-a-mystery/

    So we would have to take back Stojakovic and Okafor to get Paul. That's a LOT of money. If we moved Camby (9 million), Miller (7 million), and Przybilla (7 million), we would STILL need about 7 million to match those salaries.
     
  2. Miksaid

    Miksaid So Say We All

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    I think you answered your own question.

    No.
     
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    Paul or not, I don't see why moving Peja would be a priority for them as he expires after this next season. Only a team like the Griz who could absorb his salary pronto (they could be well below the cap if they don't pick up various player options) without sending equal dollars back would allow the Hornets to take his $ off their cap in 2010/11. Is there another team with such a potentially low cap figure? Okafor is owed boatloads for sure, but the next guy they'd probably love to part with is James Posey. Dude was horrible last season and is owed 13.5M over the next two seasons.

    their obvious positional needs are at SF and general quality depth. They hold pick #11 in the upcoming draft. Just to throw something out that would seem somewhat balanced involving Portland, howzabout... Rudy Martell and Pendergraph for Collison Posey and their pick?

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    handiman Well-Known Member

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    The quote reads as one of the three being a requirement, not multiple.
     
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    Camby, Miller, Webster and Rudy for Paul and Okafor works money-wise. But would never happen, unless we were the Lakers and the Hornets' GM was Chris Wallace.

    [While we're dreaming: throw in Joel and take back Posey. Oh, and throw in the rights to the Euros and it's actually not a bad deal. The Hornets would probably be better this year. Of course, they would've traded away CHRIS PAUL and thereby lost what little fan base they had...]
     
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  6. Natebishop3

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    For some reason I thought it was Stojakovic for sure, and then either Okafor or Posey. We could easily offer Miller/Przybilla/Webster or something like that. I don't see why they would want to move Peja... he's expiring.

    If we could get Paul and Okafor, I would think KP would save his job. That's only roughly 23 million. We could do that pretty easily without completely butchering our roster. Miller and Przybilla would be around 14 million, and then we would have to figure out another nine million to match it up.
     
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    That's the hard part though (if you don't want to include Aldridge -- who doesn't make much sense for the Hornets if they are in the business of cutting salary). Martell makes less than 5m, Bayless around 2m, Rudy 1.x m... and that's it. Camby would make it work though, but then again why would the Hornets want him, he just got extended.
     
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    The salaries only have to match within 25% + $100K. That means $19.2 million on the Blazers' end would work. On the Hornet's end, Paul is BYC until July 1, which means if the deal were to be done before the draft they would only get to count 1/2 of Paul's salary while the Blazers would have to count all of it. If you wait until after July 1, then you're looking at amost $25.5M on the Blazers end, meaning that the outgoing contracts would have to add up to around $20.25M. Joel, Miller, Webster, & Rudy for Paul and Okafor looks to me like it would work from a cap standpoint. Whether it's realistic...who knows?
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    I'd do it. Sure it cleans out our backcourt a bit, but we were thinking of moving Rudy anyway. We could use our MLE and draft pick on a couple of wings and be golden.

    Paul/Bayless
    Roy
    Batum/Cunningham
    Aldridge/Pendergraph
    Oden/Okafor
     
  10. Ed O

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    There is NO QUESTION you do that deal. Adding Paul and Okafor for that package would be ridiculous.

    You also forgot to put Camby into our rotation, putting the 4/5 rotation as Aldridge/Oden/Camby/Okafor. Pretty awesome.

    Nab Mike Miller for the full MLE and bring in a veteran PG for the minimum or bi-annual exception and the roster would be in fantastic shape.

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    The requirement for taking back unwanted contracts\salary is for Collison not Paul.....

    Paul will not be traded, they would be fools to do so....
     
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    I called this a while ago and it would take ZBOEC to get it done.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That makes too much sense for it to actually happen (at least from the Blazers perspective). I'd fucking faint if it went down. As for the Hornets would they really get rid of Paul for so "little" I'd be flabbergasted ... so would Paul Allen, which would probably mean KP gets his reprieve.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Here's another question: would you part with Oden, Rudy, Joel and Miller for Okafor and Paul? That would be damn tempting.
     
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    Okafor's contract is an abomination.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    And Chris Paul is a revelation.
     
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    Chris Paul isn't the only part of the deal.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He's the only part that matters.

    barfo
     
  19. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Shit, when you have the opportunity to add a top 5 player (assuming there is even an opportunity here) you do almost whatever you have to get that kind of a player. If that means taking on a 12/10 level forward/center with a big contract and you don't have to blow up your roster to do it (or at least blow up the important bits) then you make the deal. If the Lakers have taught us anything, it's that stars matter and having a tier 1 player is a requirement if you're at all serious about a championship. Chris Paul is one of those players.

    ps. I see almost no way that we get Paul.
     
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    Great players win games. Terrible contracts don't lose them.

    If you get a great player and a player with a terrible contract (who also happens to be a pretty good player, by the way) then I don't think the contract matters all that much.

    Ed O.
     

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