<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (king23james @ Jul 8 2006, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well in 10 years they wouldnt compare to present but career thats what i think he meant</div>And looking that far ahead is completely stupid. Ask Penny Hardaway.
I'm tired of people using Kobe's age saying he only has about 2-3 more years of dominance. Look at the style of basketball he plays right now. He scores 35 a game on easy on the body perimeter and midrange shots. He can do what he's doing now on offense for another 10 years, and with his conditioning I can see him still being a great defender for another 6-7 years.
Lets just say when Lebron is Kobes age, he will have acomplished more and will be one of the greatest players of all time.
I doubt Lebron will have 3 championships by the time he is Kobe's age. To do that, he'd have to win a championship in 3 of the next 5 or 6 seasons. But, if he does win a couple by then, he will have been Finals MVP of all, so it would have been more impressive.
I say this thread is a little stupid because LeBron has only played 3 years. Wait for him to play a little longer.Now, if you wanted to debate who had a better year, then that is ok in my opinion.As of now:Kobe>LeBron because Kobe has played longer and has more expierence.But who had a better year? LeBron did.
My opinion hasn't changed since before the playoffs....Kobe is the more dynamic scorer, the far better defender, has 3 rings, has come up in the clutch in much more important situations than LeBron has ever been in, and is the more proven player.2-3 years Bron will be the better player, and will be fighting with Wade for best in league.
lebron is better than kobe all but one aspect of the game, and lebrons D will only get better with experience
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ohiostfbfan @ Jul 12 2006, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lebron is better than kobe all but one aspect of the game, and lebrons D will only get better with experience</div>really..and what aspect of the game is that?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ohiostfbfan @ Jul 12 2006, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lebron is better than kobe all but one aspect of the game, and lebrons D will only get better with experience</div>So Lebron's a better scorer than Kobe is? Is he a better shooter? Is he more clutch?
Kobe is the greatest ever, and even LeBron himself being the great player that he is from my home town Akron admits that Kobe is the best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRZmwfy3ms :worthy: :worthy: :worthy: WITH THAT SHOT IN YOUR EYEPLUS AMAREhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hJuAyQkpI :shifty2: :winkglasses: [attachment=66:attachment]
Are you guys stupid? The only reason why LBJ is a better playmaker is because that's his job. Kobe doesn't do that because Lamar Odom does that. Kobe's job on the Lakers is to score and bail them out whenever he has too. Am I the only one who saw that Lakers/Cavs game were Kobe completely bitchslapped LBJ?It's not even close, Kobe is BY FAR the best player in the world right now. The only reason why LBJ even seems to be so great is because ESPN overhypes absolutely everything he does.If anything, LeBron is a DISTANT 2nd as far as best players in the league, with Wade at #3. But Kobe is definately #1, he can shut down either LBJ or Wade, he can pass just as well as both, he can rebound as well as both, he's more clutch than both and he can score 40 whenever, where ever and on who ever he damn well pleases.Kobe isn't a selfish ballhog, you guys shouldn't believe everything Shaq tells you. Every thing you claim LBJ to be so great at, Kobe is just as good, and Kobe is even better at every other part of the game.Everybody compares Wade or LBJ to Michael Jordan yet you all are missing the most clear and obvious comparison: Kobe Bryant. He has come closest to MJ than anyother player since. Of course he never gets credit because everybody hates him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Oct 3 2006, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you guys stupid? The only reason why LBJ is a better playmaker is because that's his job. Kobe doesn't do that because Lamar Odom does that. Kobe's job on the Lakers is to score and bail them out whenever he has too. Am I the only one who saw that Lakers/Cavs game were Kobe completely bitchslapped LBJ?It's not even close, Kobe is BY FAR the best player in the world right now. The only reason why LBJ even seems to be so great is because ESPN overhypes absolutely everything he does.If anything, LeBron is a DISTANT 2nd as far as best players in the league, with Wade at #3. But Kobe is definately #1, he can shut down either LBJ or Wade, he can pass just as well as both, he can rebound as well as both, he's more clutch than both and he can score 40 whenever, where ever and on who ever he damn well pleases.Kobe isn't a selfish ballhog, you guys shouldn't believe everything Shaq tells you. Every thing you claim LBJ to be so great at, Kobe is just as good, and Kobe is even better at every other part of the game.Everybody compares Wade or LBJ to Michael Jordan yet you all are missing the most clear and obvious comparison: Kobe Bryant. He has come closest to MJ than anyother player since. Of course he never gets credit because everybody hates him.</div>My thoughts exactly :worthy:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Oct 3 2006, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you guys stupid? The only reason why LBJ is a better playmaker is because that's his job. Kobe doesn't do that because Lamar Odom does that. Kobe's job on the Lakers is to score and bail them out whenever he has too. Am I the only one who saw that Lakers/Cavs game were Kobe completely bitchslapped LBJ?It's not even close, Kobe is BY FAR the best player in the world right now. The only reason why LBJ even seems to be so great is because ESPN overhypes absolutely everything he does.If anything, LeBron is a DISTANT 2nd as far as best players in the league, with Wade at #3. But Kobe is definately #1, he can shut down either LBJ or Wade, he can pass just as well as both, he can rebound as well as both, he's more clutch than both and he can score 40 whenever, where ever and on who ever he damn well pleases.Kobe isn't a selfish ballhog, you guys shouldn't believe everything Shaq tells you. Every thing you claim LBJ to be so great at, Kobe is just as good, and Kobe is even better at every other part of the game.Everybody compares Wade or LBJ to Michael Jordan yet you all are missing the most clear and obvious comparison: Kobe Bryant. He has come closest to MJ than anyother player since. Of course he never gets credit because everybody hates him.</div>You are f*cking GOD! thank you I wwalways try to explain that to people but they dont listen
Kobe has NEVER been the passer or rebounder Bron is. Bron has much better court vision and more willing to give ball up. Kobe wa sin playmaker spot in the 3 peat and never was the passer Bron was, and throughout his career has never been above 7RPG like Bron has done twice in his 3 year career.But I do agree, Kobe is easily the best player in the world right now. Easily best scorer, one of best clutch performers/leaders, and unlike Wade/Bron/T-Mac, he can play lockdown defense against just about anyone. That single thing is what truly sets him apart from the others.
Kobe doesn't pass as much as LeBron, but he is just as good at it. Now granted, LBJ does it more often. Kobe is in a slightly different situation though, you have to acknowledge that. Kobe has excellent court vision as well, even though he doesn't use it to always pass off. The simple truth is, Phil Jackson asked Kobe to score a lot last season and Kobe followed through. If PJ asks Kobe to rack up triple-doubles then he'll do that. KB is just following orders.And to add to your last bit:You are right, but I want to add one more thing...Kobe knows all the tricks. You know, the ones MJ and Reggie Miller used to do all the time to get that extra bit of space or to get the call from the refs. Kobe knows all those things. Wade and LBJ don't, as great as they are, and they are great, they still don't know how to do those little ity bity things that give you an extra advantage. Kobe does.
It's funny, there's been kobe vs Ai, Kobe vs tmac and Kobe vs carter. All faded out and kobe remained the constant. Who knows what will happen with wade and lebron. No-one expected the other 3 to fade out.
There's no doubt Kobe is the better player and no one is arguing that, but there in no way that Kobe is the better rebounder or passer. Kobe has only gotten 6 assists 1 time in his career and that's even when he had Shaq all those years. LeBron has had 7.2 and 6.6 assists already in his career and has shown more there at such a young age. I do agree that Kobe's passing is much better than he is given credit for. He is not a ballhog, he just has a big ego like every superstar in sports.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Oct 3 2006, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you guys stupid? The only reason why LBJ is a better playmaker is because that's his job. Kobe doesn't do that because Lamar Odom does that. Kobe's job on the Lakers is to score and bail them out whenever he has too. Am I the only one who saw that Lakers/Cavs game were Kobe completely bitchslapped LBJ?It's not even close, Kobe is BY FAR the best player in the world right now. The only reason why LBJ even seems to be so great is because ESPN overhypes absolutely everything he does.If anything, LeBron is a DISTANT 2nd as far as best players in the league, with Wade at #3. But Kobe is definately #1, he can shut down either LBJ or Wade, he can pass just as well as both, he can rebound as well as both, he's more clutch than both and he can score 40 whenever, where ever and on who ever he damn well pleases.Kobe isn't a selfish ballhog, you guys shouldn't believe everything Shaq tells you. Every thing you claim LBJ to be so great at, Kobe is just as good, and Kobe is even better at every other part of the game.Everybody compares Wade or LBJ to Michael Jordan yet you all are missing the most clear and obvious comparison: Kobe Bryant. He has come closest to MJ than anyother player since. Of course he never gets credit because everybody hates him.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Oct 3 2006, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe doesn't pass as much as LeBron, but he is just as good at it. Now granted, LBJ does it more often. Kobe is in a slightly different situation though, you have to acknowledge that. Kobe has excellent court vision as well, even though he doesn't use it to always pass off. The simple truth is, Phil Jackson asked Kobe to score a lot last season and Kobe followed through. If PJ asks Kobe to rack up triple-doubles then he'll do that. KB is just following orders.And to add to your last bit:You are right, but I want to add one more thing...Kobe knows all the tricks. You know, the ones MJ and Reggie Miller used to do all the time to get that extra bit of space or to get the call from the refs. Kobe knows all those things. Wade and LBJ don't, as great as they are, and they are great, they still don't know how to do those little ity bity things that give you an extra advantage. Kobe does.</div>Your right, Kobe is not asked to be the playmaker like Lebron James is, and doesn't pass as much. Your are wrong however by saying that Kobe Bryant can pass as good as Lebron James if he wants to. Hardly anyone in the league can pass the ball as clean and crisp to just about any point on the floor, like Lebron James can. That includes many of the point guards, Lebron James is just a much better passer than Kobe Bryant is.Rebounding is not even close, Kobe can not grab a rebound like Lebron James can. You claim he can shut down either Lebron James or Dwayne Wade, and that's just stupid. No one man on earth can shut down Lebron James or Dwayne Wade. If they have a rough game, it's either just a bad game for them, or a total team effort. Not just one player, same with Kobe Bryant. When he has those off days, like he used to have against the pistons it was because of total team defense. It was not because of Tayshaun Prince by himself.As for the game where Kobe "bi*ch slapped" Lebron James, that was two years ago, not last year. Furthermore, for a majority of that game it was not Kobe Bryant guarding Lebron James, it was other people guarding him. Last year Lebron brought it to Kobe and the Lakers during their two games just as much as Kobe brought it to Lebron James and the Cavaliers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Oct 4 2006, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Last year Lebron brought it to Kobe and the Lakers during their two games just as much as Kobe brought it to Lebron James and the Cavaliers.</div>Agreed with everything up until here. Remember when in the game at LA, it was neck and neck until last 2min when Kobe came alive and LeBron faded into the background? That is what sticks out at me between the 2 during the season...
