*edited*... you insinuated they were in the same position in a negative way, but you're wrong, one was by choice, one was by force
Wait, you think Ferry would still be with the Cavs if he didn't resign? I don't. They wanted him gone, but let him bow out as a nice gesture.
Uh oh. Now you called him *edited* and he is going to whine to the mods about enforcing the rules, the same mods he complains about non-stop.
Ferry resigned because he disagreed with his owner's decision about the coach. How does THAT make him a "yes man"?
Seriously, aren't they both unemployed? You seem to have some sort of advanced logic that escapes my simple mind. No need to call me a troll, since you said I couldn't understand your logic. That's a trollish act by you, isn't it? Plus, I don't recall replying to you in this thread until you trolled me.
Why do you think the Cavs would have let him go? Because he couldn't keep LeBron? Or surround him with an all-star?
Tell me again how Pritchard messed up by not making the OKC trade with Miami! Ferry was forced out. He chose to resign, Pritchard chose to be fired. They are both jobless. That is what matters.
Ferry's CV February 23, 2006 -- Trades Mike Wilks to Seattle for Flip Murray June, 2006 -- Selects Shannon Brown in the first round and Boobie Gibson in the second round of the NBA Draft. Feb. 21, 2008 -- Acquires Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West from Seattle, Ben Wallace and Joe Smith from Chicago in exchange for Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Cedric Simmons and Shannon Brown to the Chicago Bulls and Ira Newble and Donyell Marshall to Seattle. In addition, Cleveland acquired Chicago's second-round pick for 2009. June, 2008 -- Selects J.J. Hickson in the first round of the NBA Draft. August 13, 2008 -- Trades Joe Smith to Oklahoma City and Damon Jones to Milwaukee in exchange for Mo Williams. June 2009 -- Selects Danny Green in the second round of the NBA Draft. June 25, 2009 -- Trades marginal rotation players Ben Wallace and swing man Sasha Pavlovic, as well as $500,000 and a future second-round pick to Phoenix for Shaquille O'Neal. July 13, 2009 -- Signs free agent Anthony Parker. July 24, 2009 -- Signs free agent Jamario Moon. August 11, 2009 -- Signs free agent Leon Powe. February 17, 2010 -- Trades Zydrunas Ilgauskas and his expiring contract to the Washington Wizards for Antawn Jamison. Ilgauksas returns 30 days later after he is released by the Wizards.Cavs also receiver Sebastian Telfair from Clippers in the trade. June 4, 2010 -- Ferry resigns. The only bad move in my opinion was Shaq
Because he had the best player in the league and couldn't put a good enough supporting cast together.
Ferry has the best player on Earth and is fucked capwise, and his team didn't get out of the second round this year and hasn't been to the Finals in 3 years. Now, LeBron is going to leave them. What a brilliant GM. Hire him now!
M Williams (All-Star), Jamison (2x All-Star), and Shaq (many time All-Star) is not good enough? I think the Cavs not winning a Championship is hardly Ferry's fault.
Obviously it wasn't enough to get out of the second round. He quit before they fired him. He's unemployed.
Those are impressive names, too bad names mean shit. LeBron went to the Finals with Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden, how well did those big names with their big contracts do?
Clearly not, right? If it were enough, they would have won the title or at least been close to winning it. What's the point of saying Shaq is a "many time All-Star" or even that Jamison is a two-time All-Star? Shaq is nowhere near his prime and Jamison is past his prime too. Williams isn't, but he was also a questionable All-Star. All "All-Stars" aren't created equal...analyzing by All-Star appearances isn't a very good system. Who's was it?
My response was to 44Thrilla's comments that Ferry couldn't put a supporting cast around James, not whether they won an NBA Championship. It was his job to assemble the best talent he could on one roster. It's the coaches and players jobs to win games. Ferry did an exceptional job in IMHO.
I was responding to your "That's not good enough?" If the goal he was aiming at was putting together a team good enough to win a title, it clearly wasn't good enough. I don't know what measure you were using. I thought the team achieved its talent level, by and large. I didn't think it was an amazingly talented team...it was a decent supporting cast around one truly great player. Those teams (one great player, lots of okay players) tend not to win titles. Whether putting together a 60 win team that wasn't built to win a title is an "exceptional job" is definitely up to opinion. I think he did an okay job. I wouldn't be horrified if Portland hired him, but he definitely doesn't seem excitingly good at his job.
Neither of those three guys are all-stars, or even Lamar Odom Level. He did get a supporting cast together, just not a very good one. All those guys played terrible in the playoffs except for LeBron who was impressive, and Varejao when he was on the court for his 20-30 minutes.
