Canzano tweets (re: Rudy)

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  1. Minstrel

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    My only hope is that Born and Buchanon can do good quality work, as Pritchard's former (and perhaps future) lieutenants, until the next GM is installed.
     
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    I mean, we don't have a fucking GM, and the summer of all summers starts in 5 days.

    I don't get it. I understand that Pritchard may have deserved to be fired, although I don't necessarily accept that view, but why the fuck don't we have Plan B already in place???? Sign and trades, people!
     
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    Do they have the authority to make trades? They are scouts. They have been focused on the draft. Pritchard as the NBA scout, for all intents and purposes, and he made the calls to oter GMs.
     
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    Is the answering machine taking these calls?
     
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    Wait, what? KP was gun shy in moving a player? Say it isn't so?
     
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    I think other teams think he can defend a couple of positions and I think David Kahn in particular really wanted him ... Does the sixteenth pick surprise me? Yeah maybe a little bit given the size of Martell's deal and his inconsistency, but maybe they think he'll be a lot more consistent for them than he was for us.

    As for Rudy I think a lot of teams see a guy who can barely guard a chair, hit below 40% on two pointers, can't really dribble or create his own shot and is 25 years old ... and to cap it all off has intimated that he may just bag the whole NBA thing and go back to Spain. As for New Orleans thinking he can be the next Peja, think about who was just installed as the new head coach. Monty is going to know better than just about anyone Rudy's tendencies, weaknesses and mentality.

    I guess what I'm saying is that Rudy's value is about equivalent to a second round pick: he doesn't have much upside left, he's fairly one dimensional, and he might not have an NBA body (the length, just not the bulk), what they're able to get by using him as a throw-in remains to be seen.
     
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    His contract is relatively pennies on a throw-in. A throw-out might be a better description.
     
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    In negotiation theory, there is the concept of Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement or BATNA. Keeping Rudy--and assuming he hadn't fully recovered from his back injury last year--is by far preferable than accepting a 2nd round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if that GM was trying to get Rudy during the draft and still has interest in him.
     
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    Agreed 100%.

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    +1.....why would you just give up on an assest? for all his faults, he has still shown that he can do it in europe and against the US in the olympics.
     
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    Rudy's value is very low right now, it may not be a bad idea to hold onto him if we can't include him in a deal that significantly improves our team. He can always redeem himself next season and prove his worth in the beginning and then we can make a decision on him. Could his value really go any lower?
     
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    Theoretically, I guess...but even if so, I don't think I'd cry over having missed on the "opportunity" to have garnered a second-round pick. It's well worth the risk to hold onto Rudy and hope he bounces back (maybe just from the motivation to raise his value for a trade to get out of Portland).
     
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    True, but there is also such a thing as a sunk cost.

    In this case, it isn't so much "money down a rat hole" as it is about playing time. If Williams is an NBA caliber player, making him sit behind Rudy is a waste of time and retards his development. If you simply bench Rudy, he becomes a cancer in the locker-room. Even if you ship him back to Spain with a phantom injury, you are still wasting a roster spot. What's the point?:dunno:
     
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    By the time Williams is as ready to contribute as Fernandez, Rudy's rookie deal will be up and he'll be with another NBA team or back in the ACB. It's not like Rudy gives us zero value.
     
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    Last year, Rudy played like a low-level reserve. In his rookie season, he played like a very good reserve. If we assume he'll play somewhere between those two points, he'll have value...just not what people envisioned for him originally. It's not like Portland will be overflowing with great bench players. Camby and Bayless should be the first guys off the bench, IMO, and after that, you play a mixture of Rudy, Babbitt, Cunningham and Williams and let whoever's playing better get more minutes that game. If someone seems to be emerging as consistently better, start weighting the minutes toward them even when they're not having great nights.
     
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    I'd never have guessed Webster would be worth the 16th pick. Hold onto Rudy; he can't play any worse than he was at the end of last season.
     
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    I think in last years draft Webster wasn't worth a 16th a pick, but in this years draft (where all the great talent was in the first 6 picks) he was. We can only hope Rudy plays well enough to one day be worth a 16th pick, haha.
     
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