Executive Sees LeBron, Bosh To Chicago As 'Done Deal'

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Rose has a better record as a Bull than Pax, Skiles, Deng, Hinrich, etc. And that's a .500 record ;-)

    SportsBook.com has the odds of Bosh and LeBron signing with the Bulls at -500, which is like a sure thing. What do they know?
     
  2. truebluefan

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    They know plenty! lol
     
  3. truebluefan

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    I read today that speculation is the nba executive that said it was a done deal is Thorn.
     
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    Whenever I see "done deal" language I always assume it's coming from the Timberwolves. Perhaps it's unfair, but they must still be pissed about how they got launched for Joe Smith.

    FWIW, Charlie Villanueva posted the following on Twitter:

     
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    It's a done deal if both players signed contracts with Bulls. And then I believe this story....
     
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    Well of course. Nothing is certain until contracts are signed
     
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    Well apparently Stephen A. Smith reported that both Bron and Bosh are going to Miami...
     
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    Haha. I can't stand the guy. He's like a female with his constant yelling and b*tching. He doesn't know anymore about the situation than any of the other journalists.
     
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    Really I dont even know anymore. Id be just as happy with Joe Johnson and Carlos Boozer as a plan B if we cant land Lebron and Bosh. But i'm really tired of all this flip-flopping shit saying that "oh lebron is going here" then a couple of days later "oh its a done deal for lebron to go here". Theyre settin up people to get their feelings hurt.
     
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    Originally he "guaranteed" LeBron is going to NY.
     
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    So what do the Bulls fans prefer? A wade/bosh combo or lebron/bosh combo?
     
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    good point!! He did that for a couple of years
     
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    'Bron and Bosh imo.
     
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    How ironic would it be for Cleveland if it turned out to be LBJ/Boozer to Chicago... If Boozer doesn't get away, none of this is going on.
     
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    I would def be happy with Bosh/Bron, but Id still love to see us get Dirk and Lebron...
     
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    LBJ/Bosh and move Deng.
     
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    I'm with this.
     
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    Here's some interesting questions/answers Chris Sheridan posed...


    * Will the owner (Jerry Reinsdorf) be willing to spend whatever it takes to surround him with the right type of supporting cast?

    Let's not forget that Reinsdorf has a well-earned reputation as being one of the more frugal owners in the league (he broke up a dynasty following the 1998 three-peat because in large part because he did not want to commit long-term dollars to Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen for what would be the downsides of their careers). Noah becomes a restricted free agent in 2011, and Rose in 2012. Is Reinsdorf willing to commit $150 million or more in long-term dollars (plus luxury tax money) to those two players on top of what he'll be paying James and another top-tier free agent? James will have no such qualms when it comes to the wallet-opening tendencies of Jim Dolan, who has shelled out luxury tax payments from Cablevision's deep coffers to pay for horrible teams over the better part of the past decade.

    * What do I know about the new coach, Tom Thibodeau?

    The answer: Practically nothing when compared to what he knows of Mike D'Antoni. If you count up all the hours LeBron has spent on planes, trains, hotels and buses with D'Antoni since 2006, when the James first started playing under D'Antoni (and Mike Krzyzewski and Nate McMillan) with Team USA, you start running into the high triple-digits. D'Antoni and James have been together for dinners at the Wynn resort in Las Vegas, at U.S. military bases in South Korea, at Morton's in Macau, at Starbucks in Shanghai, and inside the locker room in Beijing when James celebrated the greatest accomplishment of his professional career by winning an Olympic gold medal in 2008.

    * Who is my 3-point shooter?

    It won't be Kirk Hinrich, since he is heading to the Wizards on July 8. It won't be Rose, because he can't shoot the 3 (27 pct last season). It won't be Jannero Pargo, since he will be an unrestricted free agent and is not guaranteed to return, and it might not be Deng, because he may have to be used as a sign-and-trade chip to acquire that second max free agent (especially if that second player is Chris Bosh, who stands to make $30 million extra if he changes teams through a sign-and-trade deal). With the Knicks, he'd at least have Danilo Gallinari, who can stroke it so well that D'Antoni (in a mouthful of comment last fall) has described him as the best shooter he has ever seen.

    * Can Rose play off the ball?

    That is one of the great unknowns in this whole equation, because Rose has shown himself (like James) to be a player who is most effective when he has the ball in his hands to run the offense. Can Rose subjugate his game to be the type of spot-up shooter that Mo Williams was in Cleveland? And what about the defensive end? Can Rose defend opposing point guards better than, or as well as, Toney Douglas can? Granted, Douglas is somewhat of an unknown on that level in the pros, and D'Antoni probably hurt himself in that department by limiting Douglas' minutes in favor of Chris Duhon last season. But Douglas was the defensive player of the year in the ACC during his final season at Florida State, and there's no taking that off his resume.

    * Can the Bulls improve themselves in the summer of 2011 as much as the Knicks can?

    If the Bulls hang onto Deng and sign James and another max free agent, they will be over the cap in the summer of 2011 and will have only the mid-level exception to use (and there is a caveat there, too, since owners want to eliminate the MLE in the next collective bargaining agreement). If Deng is moved in a sign-and-trade, the Bulls will still be committed to at least $51 million in salaries for 2011-12, which would theoretically leave them some $5-6 million under the cap, thereby depriving them of the use of the mid-level exception (The MLE is not available to under-the-cap teams). The Knicks, on the other hand, will have Eddy Curry's $11.3 million salary coming off the books a year from now. If New York has two max players, plus Gallinari, Douglas, Wilson Chandler and Bill Walker on the books for the '11-12 season, that adds up to roughly $45 million in salaries. And if the 2011-12 cap comes in at $56 million again, New York will have $11 million to spend on putting supplemental pieces around their core -- an especially salient point given that the owners are seeking a hard salary cap in the new labor agreement.
     

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