Bulls' first meeting could be with Chris Bosh

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  1. bullsger

    bullsger Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    By Mike McGraw (Daily Herald)

     
  2. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    OMG he isn't that good, LOL!

    Crazy how he's been perceived this summer.

    This is a guy that routinely gets tooled by Rasheed Wallace, Al Jefferson, Zach Randolph, Carlos Boozer, etc..
     
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    Sorry he is pretty good.

    The Raptors have a terrible team defensively he just needs a new environment.
     
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    I hate Bosh's game. I couldn't care less where he signs.
     
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    You get Bosh next to 'bron and Noah and his defense will improve. If not, both guys can cover for him
     
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    NJNetz BBW Banned

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    Am I wrong to say that Bosh puts up great numbers but isn't at all dominant?
     
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    Joe, Boozer etc. are worse so whatever. He's only 26 and the best option to pair up with Bron.

    I suppose other combos could work though.
     
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    He's younger than Stoudemire and more dominant offensively.
     
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    I still hate him.
     
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    I'm not all that impressed with him either. He's a lot like Gasol in that he can be pretty easily taken out of games. But he is clearly the best option for the bulls. And things will be a lot easier for him with Rose and LBJ taking attention away from him.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Pretty good but not great. There are dozens of pretty good players in the NBA.
     
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    He's actually worth MAX.
     
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    He is worth the max.
     
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    Dozens, as in 24+ ? He's a top 10 player, good enough.

    Actually there aren't dozens of Amare Stoudemires in the NBA, what would make you think there are 24-36 Chris Boshs (if you meant some other amount disregard ;) )?
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Alright... no I don't think he's top ten and I think there are only a few superstars in the league and he's in the group below them, stars, and there are one or two on almost every team.
     
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    Bosh is rare because he's big, scores a LOT, and rebounds. Supply and demand says he's worth the MAX for the scarcity reasoning alone.

    He may be very wrong if he thinks his team can win with him as THE MAN. But as a #2 or #3 option, like on the Bulls, he'd be terrific.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Well I agree with that and I'm not debating what he's going to get paid. He gets paid based on the numbers he puts up and I suppose also based on his age. Whether or not they make him a superstar is another issue.
     
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    He had 25+ PER and a top ten level rating in Net Per on 82games (for players with a reasonable amount of minutes).

    You can rank him outside of the Superstar tier that doesn't take him out of the top ten. If you start ranking players on David Lee's or Boozer's tier above him, I'll be disappointed with you.

    Aside from LeBron, Paul, Durant, Wade, Howard, Bryant, Dirk, and an aging Duncan (don't know about next year), who else is above him?

    He has 28.2 own per and allows 18. He's a Super Stoudemire, the Raptors suck because almost all of their other players have negative net value.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    I don't know what PER is or how you rank players. My opinion is based on watching him a few hundred times and comparing him to other players I see. Unscientific and subjective.

    He has definitely been below several players based on when I've seen them go head to head including Gasol, Randolph, Wallace (retired), Boozer, etc.
     
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    With respect to your Stoudemire comparison, he is not as dominant offensively (Stoudamire can score at will, Bosh is a pick-and-pop/face-up specialist, left hand dominant, and struggles against anyone who puts a body on him and doesn't foul him). Defensively they are about equal as neither of them try very hard at all.
     

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