Ferry to meet with Blazers about GM job Wednesday

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  1. Minstrel

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    while I'm fascinated that this discussion could even happen today, what does that have to do with Ferry in Portland? Are we meeting him at the airport? Pep Rally at the Square?

    Some of the weirder machinations I remember about a basketball team's FO, on the eve of the greatest FA period in NBA history, and we're having "K*be v. LBJ Clutch Comparisons". really? :)
     
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    FTR, I'm with HK and Minstrel here. As far as "way more daggers" if you want to call them that, I'm trying to remember a parallel to LBJ destroying the Pistons for 25 straight points in the 4th quarter and overtime of a Game 5 ECF? When everyone on the planet knew he was getting the ball?
     
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    Was Ferry a good GM (and therefore someone we want hired in Portland) and LeBron James blew it by choking, or was Ferry unable to get his team over the hump?

    It's 100% on topic. ;) It's not like it's Kobe vs. Jordan (Jordan was much better).
     
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    LeBron blew it when it came out that his mom did Delonte West, and LBJ pouted through game 5 and 6. I don't know that I'd call that a "choke", much like I can't say that putting two all-stars and Shaq around LBJ for peanuts was a black mark in Ferry's ledger.
     
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    Okay...that was a little wordy. I'll put you down as a "maybe."
     
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    What's his native language? Maybe we could make a banner. What do they speak in Cleveland?

    Alternatively, as a welcome gift - a little rain gutter system that he could wear like a headband, so that the rain running off his bald head could be collected and run down a drainpipe rather than running down inside his collar.

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    Doesn't Ferry speak Italian? K*be speaks Italian. He's clutch. Or not. Ferry could clutch an umbrella.
     
  9. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Really interesting points I hadn't ever considered in this thread. Repped.
     
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    That could be an issue. Brian Smith? said he resigned the Cavs gig because the owner had becoming increasingly meddlesome in the past year. Ferry wanted complete autonomy.

    I think the community or decision-making brain trust is going to remain. So, why not split the traditional GM roles into components as well? Just elevate Buchanan/Born into a personnel Director role, so the one thing this team does well and maybe better than any other team--player evaluations--remains intact. Let Miller handle the other GM duties. And the multi-headed unit that currently makes the ultimate decisions remains in place. Why bring in an established guy--like Ferry--with his own ideas and ways of doing things? Why risk him fucking up the one thing that isnt broken on this team, with the player evaluation process they have established? If they really feel the job is too big for Miller, bring in a guy with a financial/legal background to handle the broken down GM side of it. Just dont tamper with the talent identifying machinery.
     
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    Larry Hughes.

    Isn't that enough?

    Paid Varejao (I don't know how to spell that fuck head's name) an absurd amount of money to get knocked down 10 times a game.

    Also, he traded away White LeBron (Sasha Pavlovich). That's unforgivable.
     
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    In this forum or another one, I came to the same conclusion. I say we go out and get a guy like Rich Cho and promote him to GM. Now, he's not a talent guy, but he understands the CBA, mathematical models and cap strategy as well as anyone in the league. Make Born or Buchanan the Asst. GM and put him in charge of personnel. If Larry Miller does indeed have the golden touch from his days running the Jordan Brand, then he can do the schmoozing.
     
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    I don't think Ferry is a bad GM. I do think he was a GM who was desperate to do whatever was needed to get Lebron to buy into staying on board. I also think that many of the moves he pulled off to try and keep Lebron there were the best he could have done at the time with the talent he had on his roster.

    Folks look at this:

    He traded Big Z for Antawn Jamison, and then got Big Z back. That is basically getting Jamison for free. Is that a bad deal?

    The deal for Shaq kind of hurt the team long term. But they were desperate for a big, and he was really the only big with any talent out there available.
     
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    Well Varejao makes about 5 million less per year than Aldridge. Given the same minutes, I think a lot of people in this forum woul dsay 7 mil per season is great for a guy that can average 11/10 in 36 minutes.

    Larry Hughes got hurt, but before he did, he averaged 16+ ppg. Even afterwards he finished in Cleveland with over a 15 ppg avg. Then he traded him. It woul dbe like blaming KP for picking Oden. No one knew he was going to get hurt?

    So again, find something that Ferry did that deserves all this hate. Every GM has made mistakes, and Ferry is no different. But man, there are some people that think he has been horrible for no reason
     
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    There are more attractive places for Ferry to go, where he'll have more money to spend or an owner that won't be so intrusive. I still think he passes.
     
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    Agree with the nacho lover from Texas.
     
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    Dude, Hughes never even shot 41% from the field during his three year tenure. He sucked both before and after his bouts with injury. He only had one efficient year at Washington and Ferry was duped into signing him while other free agents like Joe Johnson or even Mike Redd were available. It was a horrible move that set them back years.

    Ferry can be lauded for getting a whole lot of something for essentially nothing, but the Hughes move can't simply be swept under the rug. It was way too egregious to ignore.
     
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    Color me confused. KP made mistakes and deserved to be fired. Ferry made mistakes, but that's okay; every GM makes them.
     
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    I think that's a pretty fair point. You also have to take into account he didn't really have a lot of great draft picks to work with--since he came on there they had picks at 55, 22, 45, 19, 46, and 30. With them he was able to pluck out Daniel Gibson and JJ Hickson, which is pretty decent for what he had to work with.

    He also was Director of Basketball Operations for the Spurs from 2003-05. Having some background in management with the Spurs is always good for a resume.

    *shrug* I'm not in love with the idea of Ferry as GM. But I can see how it could work.
     
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    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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