Maybe Durant and Wall will want to come here and we can form the next super team that faces the Bulls for the next decade... Seriously though, the thought of LeBron and Bosh going to either one scares me.
Very interesting indeed. Ever since NJ has traded Yi to have 30m projected cap space (same as Bulls), I've been wondering if they really are an inferior option to the Bulls (who appear to make the most basketball sense)... Other than Chicago, only NJ can offer him a place to play with a good PG and (more importantly) a good center. Yes, Rose is better than Harris but not by a lot. Rose has way more room to improve probably, BUT I think Brook Lopez is a much better prospect than Joakim Noah. 3 years younger, 20 PER (compared to Noah's 18), bigger, better low post option (worse rebounder). Rose > Harris Noah < Lopez Gibson << Favors Reinsdorf <<< Prokhorov Cap space: draw Chi < NY Thibodeau < Johnson (Johnson is more proven at least) And they can get the same sidekick for him (Amare/Boozer/Johnson etc.), especially if Bosh goes to Miami.
CHI with its inferior roster made the playoffs, while NJ lost the most games of anyone in the league?
I'm not saying they had the better roster (that would be laughable). Both of those teams are stripped down for 2010-11 now -- a lot of players that contributed to the Bulls success are no longer under contract (just like a lot of Nets players who contributed to NJ being the worst team). I was merely comparing their current players and most important assets (market, ownership). Which one do you disagree with?
The only significant player CHI is losing is Hinrich, who is not the difference between 41 wins, and 12 wins. I'm saying that you're >> <<< system is flawed. CHI is far better.
+Salmons/Warrick, Brad Miller, Flip Murray, Jannero Pargo. Never mind though, as you seem to want to argue about something else than what my post was about. It's all good though, working and posting at the same time can be difficult.
A bit like the 1980s, where you had "superteams" like the Lakers and Celtics, who won 8 of the 10 titles. The league was pretty popular back then. I guess you basically had to have "your team" and then decide who you liked between the Lakers and Celtics. As for the original question, I'd be okay with it for the "wow" factor also. I enjoyed watching the Bulls play brilliant basketball (of course, part of that was their defensive brilliance, which none of the proposed superteams would feature). It would suck to have such a roadblock to Portland winning a title, but...I'm not totally sure I ever really believed Portland would win a title anytime soon. It takes such a convergence of dynamics. Maybe if Oden hadn't suffered big injuries and Aldridge had had his break-out season, I wouldn't be so pessimistic. (I do think Portland had a small chance last year if they had remained healthy, and again have a small chance in the coming year with health...if a James/Wade/Bosh type of team doesn't emerge.)
Not really. I was actually being serious. Salmons did not even play in their last 31 games during their playoff push or the playoffs. Warrick played 10mpg and had 0.6 PER (seriously). Brad Miller played 18mpg and had a 3.7 PER. Flip Murray played 19mpg and had 17 PER --- I'll give you this one. Pargo played 4mpg and had 1.6 PER. Like I said, these players are not significant at all, and did not contribute to CHI's late season playoff push. And, I'm on my lunch break.
You seem to be using playoff numbers, but were quoting their regular season record. If we're going by games played, then it should be mentioned they had Tyrus Thomas, John Salmons and others for the greater half of the season. Eh, why am I even arguing your strawman, when I never said the Nets were a better team last year than Chicago?
I think that's a reasonable comparison. The NBA really is all about your top three or four players. LeBron just played on a pretty deep team, but with nobody else who could dominate. If I'm LeBron, I look at Noah/Rose and Lopez/Favors, and ask myself: who is most likely to be an incredible (and complementary) second banana? Of those four guys, I'd put my money on Lopez. Also, the Nets can sell LeBron on creating a legacy. Not just being part of a dominating franchise, but defining that dominating franchise like only very, very few players ever have (Jordan, Tim Duncan). Comparing win totals between Chicago and New Jersey last year seems pointless to me. Chicago was honestly trying to compete for a playoff spot. Deng, the guy LeBron would be replacing in the starting lineup, played the second most minutes on the team last year. The third most minutes went to Hinrich, who isn't even on the team anymore. Ditto with Brad Miller, who played the fifth most minutes on the team (almost the exact same number as Noah). That's a total of 7000+ minutes out of 19,000 minutes in the regular season. New Jersey was clearly tanking as hard as possible to get a top pick. It was all about getting Harris and Lopez lots of court time, tanking to get a top 3 pick, and clearing out space to be players for the LeBron James Bonanza. They pretty much succeeded on all fronts. I can see why Chicago is a media front-runner for LeBron. But the more I think about the intangibles (distance from Cleveland, budding young center, ability to dominate a franchise, the billionaire thing, playing in New York) the less far-fetched New Jersey seems.
Co-sign. But apparently, Lebron is still 'slightly' leaning towards Cleveland (with them possibly acquiring maybe Dirk, Bosh, JJ or Amare in a sign-and-trade). And then Chicago/Miami. lol @ the knicks.
Honestly, I hope LeBron never wins a title, because I think that would considerably diminish his greatness, so I hope the super team never happens.
MLB is that Maranzano, Luciano and Bonanno? Cause League La Cosa Nostra is the model I see being followed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mafia
Everyone is talking as if Cleveland can offer Lebron the most money...am I the only person that thinks a Russian billionaire might have some back channel ways to get a lot more money to him than that? Granted it would be in violation of the CBA...but do you really think the Russian is worried about that?
He's not considering Cleveland just because of the money. He's going to accept less money almost anywhere he goes, and he's still entertaining offers from half a dozen teams.
You're thinking like the new owner for the nets who is promising to make Lebron a "global icon" if he signs with the nets. The self-made mogul has carefully crafted a detailed and daring plan to make James a billionaire. The Nets will show him the map of the world, where the mogul has gone in China and India and Russia to make his billions and convince James that there’s a blueprint here for him too.
