Possible Trade? Collison for Rudy?

I really don't care about his PER rating. But I do care about his win loss record, which was pretty bad while he was in control. The thing is, he was a rookie. He performed pretty damn well for a rookie, and I wouldn't necessarily expect him to figure out the whole winning thing right away with so many young players on the floor for the Hornets last year.

I also don't think Rudy would be any happier in New Orleans playing behind Marcus Thornton. But I don't really give a shit what makes Rudy happy, and would even care less when he is gone.

 

I just got a novel idea and decided to fact check rather then talk out my ass. Collison's Drtg is worse then Miller. I thought he was a good defender? Is it that he played with Peja a lot or can anyone explain that?

 

Andre Miller's was better than Chris Paul. A lot depends on team defense.

 

Dunno. Maybe he wasn't playing as much with Okafor when Paul was healthy? Collison's 112 is 1.3 points higher than the team rating.

Miller's Drtg of 108 was 0.9 higher than the team rating.

Kind of a wash to some degree.

Plus, Miller's Drtg of 120 in the playoffs with an Ortg of 102 simply won't do.

Steve Blake had a Drtg of 114 when Aaron Brooks supposedly torched him in 2009, but at least he made up for it with an Ortg of 124.

 

OK that makes me feel better. Sometimes I feel like you post here just to give me ALL THE FREAKING INFO I DON'T HAVE. No seriously, half my questions at least are answered by you and well I might add. Thanks.

 

Its the slow down system that they run there. Recruits are starting to realize this and many player have transferred away.

 

Actually if you want to consider it correctly, he was better than Chris Paul in a year where Chris Paul was injured a lot of the year. Miller had more shot blocking backing him up, and had a more experience squad to work with.

 

I love the idea of getting Collison but don't see this trade as anything NO would do. I know that NO wants to shed salary and I think getting Collison starts there. Taking on Okafor (who is a decent player with a huge contract) would allow us to pillage NO for anyone not named Paul or West. the Question is, does Paul Allen really want to take on that nasty contract. There are 20 ways to make the trade work IF the Blazers are willing to take EO. Otherwise, I expect NO to keep looking for a Collison taker until they find a team willing to take EO.

 

I'd attribute it to the fact that we won two close games and got blown out in 3 (?).

 

Isn't that close to what happened against Houston in 2009, in at least 2 games? Blake ended up +10 in Ortg/Drtg in that series and still had that 124 for the series on offense. Miller's -18 is brutal and didn't get it done, just like Blake didn't get it done in 2009. I understand that Grant Hill shut him down offensively, but Steve Nash had an Ortg of 116 (+1) for the series, and Aaron Brooks had an Ortg of 116 ( +7 over Drtg) in 2009.

Both PGs simply don't seem to have the defensive chops to succeed in the playoffs.

 

Generally, because if they play alongside a normal sized point guard, neither can properly defend a normal sized shooting guard. However, that's not an issue in Portland, because he'd play alongside Roy. Roy would defend shooting guards and Bayless would defend point guards. As long as the team has enough total team passing, I don't think they need a pure passer from the guard who plays alongside Roy. Roy is going to direct traffic anyway, short of a superstar point guard like Chris Paul coming in.

In Portland, he could be an amazing #3/4 scorer, behind Roy, Oden and perhaps Aldridge.

So, I agree that Bayless wouldn't fit really well into a lot of situations, but he might fit quite well in Portland. As far as I'm concerned, as goes his shot, so goes his starting future in Portland. If he can build on his improved shooting and become reasonably consistent from the perimeter, he'll be a great starter alongside Roy, IMO. Potentially even better than Collison, because a lot of Collison's value would be wasted alongside a shooting guard who likes to (and can) run the offense.

 

I'm willing to bet this, if real, was a proposal from the Blazers.

 

I would shit myself out of pure joy of this happened.

 

I would love this but it is never going to happen. I would be happy to eat my words.....

 

agree

 

You might want to see a neurologist. Seems your emotional response wiring may be a bit out of whack.