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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Fez Hammersticks, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. GoBlazersGo

    GoBlazersGo Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's it... let's trade our starter at the SF position for a bunch of back-ups!

    I sense a Guinness commercial in your future: "BRILLIANT!"
     
  2. PHXBlazer1

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    If these guys were worth trading for don't you think the Wolves record should have been maybe just a little better? Don't get me wrong, they're young, and that roster isn't much to gawk about. But we're talkin about 2-3 of their starters (Love should have started every game). I'd prefer to hold onto Batum, who is more talented, has a higher ceiling, and is already used to making the playoffs. Those guys are already used to playing for a bottom feeder.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think I would do the trade. I like Flynn, and I think Love would be exactly the kind of player that helps get us over the hump. As much as I like Batum, I think we get a lot of talent for basically Batum and filler.
     
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    This seems to be the opposite of a consolidation trade; we trade two guys who aren't really in our plans right now plus a potential all star for three role players.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I would probably do that as well, with a pick coming to us.


    Giving up Batum would suck, but adding Love and Flynn would ease that pain. Giving up Joel and Rudy means nothing. Brewer also means nothing IMO.

    If the deal included Aldridge instead of Joel, I would flip out and curse the Blazers daily in emails to them.
     
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    Blazer4ever Finding a Way BANNED

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    Who's gonna shoot 3's? I think this is bullshit, we have just one good SF why trade him for a PF when we already have LA? I like Rudy for Flynn, somewhat, because I think Bayless is a SG. but Rudy for Eric Maynor would be a better trade IMO.
     
  7. craigehlo

    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    Kevin Love a role player? He's averaging a double-double off the bench while on his rookie contract. Dude is a beast and he's one of the best passing big men in the game.

    If there's a potential star in this deal, it's Love not Batum.
     
  8. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    No kidding.

    Love is a lot better than Aldridge right now, and Flynn and Brewer easily make up for losing Batum.

    For those who don't know where our 3's will come from should note that while they aren't as proficient as Batum, Brewer shot 35%, and Flynn shot 36% from 3


    So if the deal were Pryz, Batum and Rudy, you should jump on it before they change their minds. If it's Aldridge, Batum and Rudy, it's still a good deal, but I'd have to think more than a second to pull that deal
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    I disagree with that. There are two potential stars in this deal - and they are Batum AND Love.

    Personally, I would not do it. Batum fills a much bigger need for this team than Love - but this does not change the fact that K-Love is a fantastic player and a fantastic prospect.
     
  10. Idog1976

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    Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. Or they read the "discombobulated" piece and are hoping we panic trade.
     
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    An unprotected 1st plus Love, Flynn and Brewer for Rudy Joel and Batum. I'd think about that for the unprotected first and Love the rest being filler.
     
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    WTF? Aldridge AND Batum for Love basically? Fuck that shit.

    Batum + Filler for Love + filler + unprotected first I would do.
     
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    So Love is as good as Bosh/Amare/Gasol?
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I've literally read thousands of your posts, and I've come to the conclusion that you are a "familiarity breeds contempt" and a "grass is greener on the other side" kind of guy. In this case you see only the best in Love and only the worst in Aldridge.

    The bottom line is we don't need another low post PF next to GO; we need a guy exactly like Aldridge who can pull the opposing four out and allow Oden to operate one-on-one. And before you decry Oden's injury issues, they are irrelevant. If he's injured, we're not going to compete for a championship. We're only going as far as GO takes us, so we need to best build our post play around him.
     
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    Love is not even a little better then LMA. His D is even worse then LMA. He is a good passing PF and is a decent rebounder but he wouldn't better for the Blazers then LMA.
     
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    No. Did I say that somewhere or something?
     
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    You make great points, but Love can shoot outside. 52% of his shots were from the outside, and he made 41% of them. Aldridge shot 62% of his shots from the outside, and made 42% of his. Given the rebound differences, I think Love is a very good fit next to Oden. It's not that Aldridge isn't though. Love even shot better from 3 than Aldridge did.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Decent rebounder.....ok?


    Love is one of the top rebounding PF's in the league. Camby finished 1st, and was .8 ahead of Love.
     
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    yup, though I would stick up for Love's ability to pull another Big outside the paint too... dude has a very good jumper and combined with his passing would probably fit very well beside Greg on offense. What he can't do is defend. He's no shotblocking threat at all and certainly isn't able to adequately switch off on 3s and 5s like LA can. His best skill on D is rebounding but Greg already would seem to have that covered. I definitely would rather have LA beside Greg then Love. Adding Love as a 3rd Big would be something I'd be interested in but not if the cost is Batum... they'd have to throw in Rubio to perk my interest.

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  20. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'll take LaMarcus' ability to cover multiple positions on defense over Love's rebounding. Especially if it means giving up Batum in the process to get Corey "mother fucking" Brewer and Johnny "what me defense" Flynn.

    I like Love and I think he's a pretty good player, but I think he's a lot closer to his ceiling than Nic and overlaps enough with Greg's skills that I think his overall effectiveness would be blunted.
     

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