Statement from GM Gar Forman on LeBron James

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  1. truebluefan

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    “I remain convinced that this organization made the strongest of bids to acquire LeBron James during this free agency period. While we’re disappointed he chose to go to another franchise, our strategy for the future competitiveness of this organization did not begin or end with James, and we feel today’s addition of two-time All-Star Carlos Boozer significantly strengthens our team's already talented roster. It is our goal to keep exploring every avenue that it may take, whether through trades or free agency, to continue to build this team to compete at a championship level.”

    http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/forman_statement_100708.html
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    He didn't mention paying the LT (is that "every avenue" ?)
     
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    Pat Riley or Gar Forman?
     
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    enough already
     
  5. Denny Crane

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    It matters, already.

    Few FAs ultimately wanted to sign here because they don't believe we'd add enough quality players to fill out the roster.

    If we have $15M in cap space now, and we sign 3x $5M players for 5 years, we're going to be paying the LT when Noah and Rose get extended.

    These things do matter.
     
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    Get over it. With the Rose extension and Noah along with paying Boozer $15mil/year there's almost no way to avoid it. That's close to $60 mil right there. What would be stupid would be to sign players to inflated contracts that other teams don't want, or that the payer doesn't equal in value. Paying the luxury tax doesn't guarantee anything.

    And everybody but the three guys who have been planning for 2 years to play together wanted to sign here. The bulls got the best FA who was actually available.
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    It still matters. Miami is going to fill out their roster with D-Leaguers and washed up guys whose teams didn't resign them. They have 5 guys on their roster.

    Do we want to be competitive? We have 6 and cap space to get guys who aren't D-Leaguers.

    It's one thing to be all cheerful about watching Pargo be your 3rd guard while expecting to cash in on the cap space, and it's another to watch Pargo be your starting SG and not cashing in on the cap space.

    At the very least, we could easily find a player that's an upgrade over Hinrich (Ridnour), but he made $6.5M last season and it was one of his better ones.
     
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    Ridnour's not an improvement. And he's a mediocre defender.
     
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    Ridnour with his 17.7 PER would be replacing a guy with an 11.6 PER.

    82games.com says they both had about the same PER against (ridnour's actually better).

    He can play both G positions and make 3pt shots, too.
     
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    He's not a defender. Fuck PER. You've got to put somebody who's a better defender than Rose next to Rose. He played in all 82 games last year and didn't start a single game. And you know Skiles demands defense. He averaged 21 minutes a night so he was playing limited minutes against the second string.
     
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    You can't stop the other team every single time down the court, and they will be stopping us more than we will be stopping them, even if we had Artest in his prime at the 2.

    Why? Because they'll play zone against us and dare us to shoot over it. Shoot over it, we may, but we'll be getting 2 points while they will be getting 3's every now and then.

    And didn't you get it last season that when the Bulls were down by 3 with < 10 seconds left, the game was over?
     
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    Ridnour couldn't beat out Charlie Bell for a starting spot and played fewer minutes per than Bell did. You really need to get a better understanding of the game. You know who finished 24th in 3pt % and 13th in 3pt attempts? The Lakers. You know why. You don't so I'll tell you. Because they had balance and didn't need to spread the floor with 3's. Boozer gives the bulls that balance. Deng's midrange is tailor made to play off of Boozer, and Rose can still break guys down on the pick and roll. Better defense will lead to transition opportunities and will negate the need for 3pt shooters. The bulls have more than enough talent and just the fact that they will be running an nba offense this year will be enough.
     
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    He was still playing. Also, they've got that Brandon Jennings guy. He's kind of a big deal.
     
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    Then why didn't Skiles play Ridnour next to Jennings more? Ridnour is a 2, Jennings is a 1. Ridnour had 17 PER. He must have been awesome!!!!!!
     
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    And if Ridnour is a 1, why are we talking about putting a backup PG at the 2? Hinrich was at least a starting quality PG playing out of position at 2.
     
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    Last season, we played way too many minutes of 3 on 5 on the offensive end. We were a much better team the year before (after getting Salmons/Miller) because we played 4 on 5. We played the Celtics to all those OTs because Rose didn't have to play 1 on 5 - someone had to stand in the corner next to Gordon or they'd get burned.

    We don't need a defensive SG with an 11 PER, for defense's sake. We play 3 on 5 and they play 4 on 5 or 5 on 5, and we'll win 41 again.
     
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    You said Rose played SG and Hinrich PG.

    Mighty convenient. We'd play Rose at SG with Ridnour.

    I think we need more than Ridnour, though. He's still a BIG upgrade over Hinrich.
     
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    No he wouldn't.... Denny put down the controller and turn on the tv and watch some actual basketball. Better yet, put on your shoes and go play.
     
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    Convincing argument right there.
     
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    So is quoting the PER of the backup PG who barely played 20 min a game, and played in all 82 games. Don't you think Skiles would have found a way to play him more if he was in fact helping the team win?... Denny, you're history of being wrong is long and illustrious and quoting facts rarely sways your half baked opinions. Just some of the few that come mind: the bulls won't make the playoffs without BG, the Pistons will be a better team, and my favorite was calling BG a franchise level player. You don't get the game.
     

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