Fuck LeBron and Fuck

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  1. mobes23

    mobes23 Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was kind of weird how much he talked about his mom (not that I'm not a HUGE fan of my mom). It was like she somehow made it all good by saying that he needed to do what would make him happy.

    Apparently, his decision made him happy in the short term, but I don't think it will long term. Even if the Heat when 5 championships, it'll always be because of Bosh and Wade -- I'll be surprised if he ever really gets the credit for it. And, people expect a lot of championships -- anything less and they're underacheivers. Throw in the global dislike he picked up from the whole mess and it sounds a whole lot less fun than trying to push through with the Cavs.

    Maybe he'll be able to overcome it, but I think he could well end up kind of like A-Rod. Not really loved by any fans (including his own team's fans.) It's speaks volumes that A-Rod is on the verge of 600 homeruns and no one is paying attention.
     
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    A big part of that is the revelation that he did steroids.

    Beyond that, the career mistake I think A-Rod made was going to a team with an entrenched shortstop who wasn't going to be moved. Moving off to third base has made his career less special and made him seem like more of a complementary player, because he moved to the less important position. Even though he was actually a better shortstop and hitter than Jeter.

    The same likely won't be true for James. I assume the Heat will run their offense through James. However, if that isn't how it plays out and Wade, being the entrenched member of the Heat, ends up being the focal point of their offense...then James could absolutely be A-Rodded. And his decision will end up a mistake for him.
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    I agree with this, but find it to be an unlikely outcome.

    Wade and James are much better offensive players than Bosh. Bosh will be the no. 3 option to those two. I think that James will be the offensive initiator most of the time.

    For a couple of reasons; Wade is older and beat to shit. I think he is ready to take a step back in responsibility. James is the bigger matchup problem for most opposing teams, and it will just be easier for the Heat if James has the ball in his hands, draws the double and then creates for Wade and Bosh, even if all they do is get the defense off balance, and Wade and Bosh get to make a play one-on-one. I think James is the better passer as well.

    Of course, they will mix it up, but I think when on the floor together, James runs plays most often. With James and Wade they also will be able to have James or Wade on the floor for the full 48 minutes. The opposition is screwed in that regard. No letup.

    No, I think James will be the dominant offensive force for the Heat. The real interesting situation to me will be who has the ball in the last two minutes. Who takes the last shot. Who is their "closer".
     
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    IMO, the bigger mistake by A-Rod was going to a terrible team (Texas) solely for money. LeBron basically did the opposite, didn't he? Less money/better shot at winning.

    Also, since Kobe hasn't won a title without Shaq and without Gasol, and his teams sucked without those guys, doesn't that tarnish Kobe's image as well?
     
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    Also, I think we'll get to see LeBron play the role he's best at; a more athletic Magic Johnson, as opposed to a less-skilled Michael Jordan.

    I wouldn't be surprised if LeBron leads the NBA in assists within the next few years.
     
  6. MrSelfDestruct

    MrSelfDestruct Louie, Louie, Louie

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    I was about to propose the same thing. I think it's safe to say his points will drop, but rebounds and assists will probably go up.

    He will likely average a triple double in (at least) one of the next few seasons, IMO.
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Fuck LeBron and Fuck the Lakers (and Steve Blake, too).

    HCP's wife is thinking... "hrmmmm..."
     
  8. Idog1976

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    You can't compare the two in almost any meaningful way. Shaq wasn't a Florida native pushing the hometown hero meme and the airing a nationally televised dick fest fuck you to said hometown fans. Shaq moved to LA to be in Movies and sing (rap) LeBron wanted straight cash. Even though Shaq going to LA wasn't some kind of selfless heroism it's light years better the everything about the way LBJ handled this.
     
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    MrSelfDestruct Louie, Louie, Louie

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    He left money on the table by leaving Cleveland. If he wanted straight cash, he would have stayed.
     
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    Lmao. Right because LeBrons body is natural. I can't believe anyone is naive enough to think there isn't MASSIVE steroid and HGH among other PEDs in use league wide. The NBA's Canseco is just a matter of time.
     
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    LeBrons sole goal is to become a sports billionaire every move is calculated with this in mind. The added money from championships (assumed) in Miami will dwarf the few million more a year from Cleveland salary.
     
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    MrSelfDestruct Louie, Louie, Louie

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    What added money from Championships? Are you talking endorsements? If so, New York would have been the place to go (endorsement-wise, obviously not championship-wise). I don't follow you...my apologies.

    Put it this way:

    Assume you live a comfortable life and money isn't really an issue. There are two job opportunities presented to you. In Company A, you will be the Big Dog, solely responsible for the success of the company. You will be paid more here than with any other company.

    Company B will require you to make less money, but at the added benefit of less singular responsibility and more promise of success. In addition, you will live in a better location and work with two of your good friends.

    Which one would you choose?

    I don't blame LeBron for choosing Miami. It's the way it was done that I think is lame.
     
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    Eh, okay. I'm not willing to agree that someone does steroids because he looks huge. If it comes out that he did, beyond fan rumours, I can understand people discounting his achievements.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Really? Have you been around many NBA players? They are string beans. Even Martell, who has a lot of definition, is lanky in person. "Huge" LeBron is 6'8", 265 lbs., which makes him a skinny TE in the NFL.

    You're out on a limb, my man. Any supporting evidence?
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Lol.

    He doesn't want to think there could be another player to rival Jordan, that's his excuse.

    In 2005 he got injured in the conference Finals, missed a game, Heat lost 4-3. He got injured in 2007 and 2008 for significant periods. Then he lost to Atlanta and last year he was called out by Riley for his conditioning. Combined with his age I'm confident James gets to see the majority of the offense. And just from a talent perspective this would be the logical choice as well.
     
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    He gave it 4 more years, and is no closer to a championship. Plus, what he "wanted" 4 years ago is different than what he "wants" today, obviously. Had he said he "won't" go ring-chasing, and that he "would definitely" stay in Cleveland, I'd say you have something there. Alas, "wants" change over time.
     

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