Hold onto your shorts!

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by santeesioux, Jul 10, 2010.

  1. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,202
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    a passionate yet ignorant comment is what you find interesting... thats sort of interesting too. Do you agree that the Blazers only run iso plays? Just curious what exactly perked your interest here...

    Nate has stated umpteen times how much he admires Sloan and of course he is a defensive minded coach as well so you'd figure that they'd value similar types of players. I'd figure that with KP's departure Nate's opinion is probably filling some of the void and this is most likely a guy he has whole heartedly endorsed going after.

    I like the iso play with Roy at the end of games. With two wings that can punish teams for collapsing on drives and guard multiple positions on the other end :smiley-drzifige: just give them a season of health

    STOMP
     
  2. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    7,955
    Likes Received:
    4,362
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle
    I find other fan's perceptions interesting. We do run a lot of iso plays, but not exclusively. I found it more interesting though that this fan thought that the Jazz do a better job of developing their players to play the right way. I don't agree with that (but the Jazz haven't had as much of a logjammed roster to get minutes for their rookies and have a spot to use on UDFA) so I could see how a Jazz fan could feel like they are the farm team for the Blazers.
     
  3. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,202
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    okay cool, glad you didn't take offense at my question

    I thought it was interesting how many fans were split on both liking WM and yet saying they were willing to let him walk... I'm sort of on the same fence not sure if I want him at that price or not

    STOMP
     
  4. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Too bad for Jazz fans he passed away, then, because it looks like they're going to lose their starting SG.

    Ed O.
     
    Nikolokolus likes this.
  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2010-07-11-insider-lebron_N.htm

     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  7. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    30,704
    Likes Received:
    6,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Haha, nicely played sir :cheers:
     
  8. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    28,935
    Likes Received:
    9,593
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    Canzano, via Sports Sunday, said he thinks Utah will match.

    They lost Boozer and Korver and losing their starting SG would be a huge blow to them.

    So, with that said, who should plan-B be?
     
  9. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,132
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Gresham, OR
    I'm sure they'll wait until the last min to do it just to fuck with us.
     
  10. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,038
    Likes Received:
    24,909
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    To fuck with us, yes, but not just to fuck with us. They'll also need that time to get under all the couch cushions to find the money to pay Matthews.

    barfo
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,750
    Likes Received:
    55,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I really don't see why losing Boozer is at all unexpected. I thought it was pretty much a forgone conclusion after they matched Millsap last summer.
     
  12. Tortimer

    Tortimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    2,861
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Seaside, Oregon
    I think there is a better then 50% chance the Jazz will match. I don't think there is a plan-B and I don't see any FA's still available we would want. I think we still need to do some type of consolidation trade.
     
  13. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    30,704
    Likes Received:
    6,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Plan B? What!? Nobody told me we might need a plan B.
     
  14. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    30,704
    Likes Received:
    6,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I do question Canzano's motives, he seems pretty emotionally invested in this whole "Vulcan is incompetent" angle. And the business proceeding without KP (and getting a solid GM) kind of punches a hole in his argument; he kind of needs Utah to match so he can write columns about the Blazers having no direction and no plan. But really all he needs to do is tackle the "WTF are they thinking giving a second year unstaffed player Josh Childress money?" angle.
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2010
  15. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,750
    Likes Received:
    55,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I honestly think the Jazz would be nuts to match this, and I think the Blazers were nuts to offer it in the first place... unless they think this kid is going to be something special, in which case I will be very surprised.
     
  16. Harry's Raincoat

    Harry's Raincoat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2007
    Messages:
    926
    Likes Received:
    620
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I think a team (any team) should continue to add talent to the team with the MLE. The only reason NOT to use it is if you have 10+ better players ahead of the possible addition. That's not us. We have 6 NBA level starters only. We need more.
    Use the MLE each year and you keep your talent base up. You can always trade guys not measuring up to standards (Rudy, Bayless, Cunningham, Pendergraph, Mills, etc. etc.).

    I think Mathews is a rotation level player (top 8-9) on our team. Slide the others down the bench.

    Another point: Signing players in free agency is always the worst option financially. You're paying retail most times for decent talent. Only the real scrubs trying to stay in the league will sign for minimum. You don't steal anyone from another team without overpaying. Portland is never going to attract the best Free Agents available. Location, location, location. In our history, we've only signed a few impact UFA's in our 40 years (Twardzik, Ainge, Strickland, Grant, Miller).
     
    Ed O likes this.
  17. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,202
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    you really don't think they're talking about other options this off season? Maybe you just mean FA options, but I'm pretty sure they always have on-going discussions with teams about possible swaps.

    if the Jazz do match, which I think they will as well, Portland's consolation prize is that they'll have made sure that their divisional rival didn't get a decent rotation level player on the cheap. I like that. Following this next season Kirilenko will come off their books and Deron has a player option which I expects he uses siting a chance to win elsewhere. They could only have 3 substantial contracts still on their books... Millsap, Okur and Mathews. here's a direct link to their salary situation

    STOMP
     
  18. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,829
    Likes Received:
    25,046
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    I thought everyone assumed that the Jazz would replace Matthews with a re-signed Brewer? Whom the Grizzlies have just replaced with Tony Allen.

    If the Jazz DO sign Matthews and don't go after Brewer, then HE could be our "plan B". He's also a very solid defender, and more of an athlete than Matthews. Not so good with the shooting, though.
     
  19. Tortimer

    Tortimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    2,861
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Seaside, Oregon
    I agree either way if we get Matthews or Jazz match it is a good thing for the Blazers. I also meant there really isn't a plan-B for FA's IMO. They might make another offer or sign a FA but I sort of doubt it. I guess you could say plan-B is probably a consolidation trade.
     
  20. Tortimer

    Tortimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    2,861
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Seaside, Oregon
    I llike Matthews a lot better then Brewer especially for our team. Like you said he can't shoot and we need shooters to space the floor.
     

Share This Page