Interesting Tony Parker speculation

Even for a very possibility of him being a one year rental? Does not sound so appealing to me...

 

The big red flag for me is that Parker's game is based on his quicks and with all of the injuries he's suffered in the past few years I wonder if he isn't starting his decline early. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him, but I'd explore every option besides including Nic (Rudy, Bayless, JPEC, Miller, Koponen, Claver, Freeland, etc.). Another thing that I'd worry about is that TP has never exactly been the greatest defender, and being left with only Matthews to guard the wing puts us right back in the position we've been in for years -- porous perimeter D, leaving a huge mess for the bigs to clean up

 

Even with the assurance of him signing an extension, no way would I give up Batum. The difference between Miller and Parker isn't worth Batum.

 

Straight up, Batum for Parker should likely be considered a good trade. But you have to look at the change in our team. Miller got us 14 5 and 3 last season. I know Parker is a better player. But I don't think the difference between Parker and Miller is bigger than the difference between Matthews and Batum.

 

NO way... no way in hell i trade Batum for TP, for CP yes, but TP has got played a lot of bball in his career

 

I agree completely. I think Parker is a small upgrade over Miller but not close to enough to trade Batum even with an extension. I would rather have of coarse CP3 but also Harris and a few guys I'm not naming because people would probably jump all over me.

 

The difference is age, but if Nik is right in his assumption (which he very well could and I somewhat agree) if Parker is on his decline with the age and injuries, he may not be much better. Speed is basically his game, I guess when he catches up to Miller's age, we would see if he is crafty as well in the way he gets to the rim like Miller.

 

For me, CP3 or D-Will would be the ideal guard to pursue and giving up Batum would likely be worth it.

Parker I could get excited for, but not at the loss of Batum (or LMA, Roy, Oden). He doesn't provide the kind of shooting we need and he's a guard that needs the ball in his hands to penetrate into the lane. However, I do like him over Miller. Additionally, I could see players like Rudy and Bayless thriving in San Antonio.

 

I think Parker, if he's still got his prime ability, is a modest upgrade on Miller (I think Parker is excellent, I think Miller is underrated and very good). The main benefit to getting Parker is that he has more years left than does Miller. Of course, if injuries are cutting into his quickness/athleticism (which is a concern though it's obviously too early to tell) then you wonder if he'll be an upgrade at all. Giving up a 21 year old with a lot of talent is a high price to pay for a player who may not be a short-term improvement on Miller and only has one season to go on his contract. Unlike Paul, Parker is likely not a max-out candidate, so the fact that Portland would be able to pay him to most isn't relevant.

 

Fair enough. I just think Tony is just a better fit alongside Roy than Andre though. Tony won rings with dynamic SG like Manu and knows how to get the ball to the post.

After seeing Andre's round 1 performance, I think getting rid of him will be addition by subtracion in the long run.

 

Signing Matthews should have absolutely nothing to do with acquiring a top 5 PG in the league. If it takes Batum, then sign another FA that is a decent wing player, and go from there.

 

Andre Miller and Nic are better then Tony Parker and whoever we would have left at the 3!

 

Here's something I'd be willing to do ... it gets especially attractive from the Spurs POV if Joel is able to contribute anything this year as a backup center in their frontcourt.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2845lj7
Spurs out:
Parker
McDyess

Blazers out:
Miller
JPEC
Bayless
Rudy
and toss in the rights to one of Freeland, Koponen or Claver if that's what it takes to get the deal done.

It gives the Spurs a pretty deep backcourt, it gives Rudy the chance for a change of scenery with a good team, Bayless an opportunity to pick up 2 gaurd or 1 guard minutes and the Spurs get a little younger, stay competitive and are closer to clearing more cap room in the event they want to do a rebuild.

For us it provides us with a pretty nice point guard with oodles of playoff and championship experience, it clarifies the roster a little bit and removes some logjams, and crystallizes rotations somewhat.

Parker/Johnson and/or Mills?
Roy/Matthews/Williams
Nic/Babbitt
LMA/Mcdyess/Dante
Greg/Camby/Jeff

That's fourteen players under contract, decent frontcourt depth, veteran experience, some youth to develop without too many immediate expectations and probably good enough to get to the WCF and roll the dice.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy

 

I'm all for Parker, but NOT if it means giving up Batum. I think Parker is a bigger upgrade over Miller than some of you do, but still not big enough to give up on Scottie Pippen Batum.

 

Your posts lose more and more credibility with each one. Such a homer

 

At first I would have been willing to give up Batum but the more I think about it, I really don't think TP would be worth it, especially on the Blazers. Parker is, as others have pointed out, a notch better than Miller. But, what TP is good and bad at are the same things that Miller is good and bad at. And that style does not mesh very well with the rest of the team. Parker is not a good outside shot and not a great defender. He is excellent driving with the ball in his hand and either scoring or kicking the ball out. The Blazers really need to space the floor. I would almost rather have a slight total talent downgrade at the PG spot but have that PG be better at shooting.

What I am looking for in a Blazer PG. Get the ball to the bigs and Roy and be good at pic and roll offense. Shoots at least 35% from 3pt land. Can defend the quicker guards. Those are the main criteria. I like having a PG that can finish at the rim and create for himself, but I think with our current roster those talents are less important.

 

Parker & Matthews > Miller & Batum

 

I have to disagree in this one instance. Last year I thought TP's contributions did not quite add up to what either Miller or Nic provided, TP's past > Miller and Nic, TP's last year <= to Miller and Nic.

 

Batum is Pippen like Oden is Shaq. It's a stretch only homers can envision.

 

Matthews is shorter than B-Roy ... He's more 2 than 3 in the NBA.