http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=webstma02&y1=2010&p2=matthwe02&y2=2010 Statistically, they're like carbon copies. Matthews is more efficient but Webster rebounds better and turns the ball over less. It's kind of ridiculous how some of their stats match up. And according to Jazz fans, Matthews has trouble driving into anything but an open lane, kind of like Webster. Matthews is supposed to be a good defender too, but I haven't seen enough of him to comment on whether or not his defense is better than Websters. He'll also cost more than Webster. Matthews also had the luxury of playing in a good Jazz system. So, who is better, really?
one has been in the league 5 years.. the other just finished his rookie season.. So for me I would guess Matthews.
Yes but the efficiency difference is huge. Shooting 40% is down near the bottom run in the NBA. Shooting 48% is an elite shooting percentage. Martell had one of the prettiest jumpers in the NBA. Too bad it hardly ever went in.
Martell is twice the defender, and at least as good in everything else. Plus he doesn't want Roy's starting spot like Matthews obviously will soon enough. Unless we're trading Roy and going with Rudy and Wes at the 2, this was an idiotic and clumsy move by Miller.
Yes it will be interesting to see. I liked Martel. But apparently KP and his team were very high on Babbitt. If they were right then it's a moot point. If they were wrong then we will be debating this for 5 years. Unless the consensus was that Marty needed a change of scenery regardless.
Overall, I agree. I suppose good defenders are always needed, but our second unit needs a couple of real shooters. And Matthews will always be a second unit player. I have no problem getting him, but not this price. He better be trade bait.
Same age, though. I guess you could say having seen the NBA game more is an advantage, but that's not clear...Sergio Rodriguez had one of his best years as a rookie, because teams hadn't fully scouted him yet. Once they did, his play went downhill. So while Webster has an edge in NBA experience, Matthews had an edge in being more of an unknown for opposing teams. I think the two players are probably similar caliber at the moment. Portland made a bet that Webster wasn't going to break out in the next few years and now they've made a bet that Matthews will. Which is reasonable...a big part of talent evaluation is making bets on player talent and what you think they'll do in the future. Teams that make the right bets are the ones that succeed. So hopefully Portland is betting on the right guy!
You can always keep hope they will finally watch another team play. Maybe then my brain will quit hurting after I read Maris posts.
They are exactly the same age. And I would suspect Matthews went undrafted because of a relative lack of athleticism and upside. Martell also has the better NBA body, imo.
Matthews played in a system where he constantly got open looks, not just jumpers, but layups. He also played with one of the best point guards in the NBA.
wasnt aware of the ages.. thanks. But I still personally think that NBA experience of 5 years the player would be further along. Of course thats just IMO.
As in jumpers yes, but when has Portland ever looked for cutters? Webster made 81/161 at the rim this past season. In comparison, Matthews made 167/286. You don't need me to tell you what that does to a player's shooting %.
I think going to college for 4 years actually helps a player develop more mature. Look at Roy for example.
Twice the defender? I don't think so......Probably the OTHER way around, I think Wes is the better defender, I guess we will see this year....
Look at Kobe, McGrady or James. I don't think there's any intrinsic benefit to college for developing in basketball. It's a question of playing high level competition, as long as you are good enough to play against it. And I think Webster's rookie performance showed he could play in the NBA. He simply wasn't as talented as presumed and therefore didn't have the ceiling some envisioned. I don't think it was a college/NBA thing.
I suspect you're right. I'm really trying to make myself like this deal, but I just can't convince myself we're any better with Matthews than we are with Webster. Oh well, at least there's Babbitt...
