Greg Oden?

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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    LOL! Isn't 41 games the maximum one can play and still have their salary largely paid by insurance?
     
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  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I think we all should understand that he's not going to be in NBA shape to start the year. I'm expecting him to be in full condition around the All Star break.

    I think I've stated this in other threads, but what's been most disappointing about all these injuries is the fact that he's had to work on his conditioning and rehabilitation rather than on his post moves, footwork or his offensive repetoire. This is going to be his fourth year and he's like a rookie. It's frustrating. That being said, none of these injuries permanently reduce his athleticism, so I remain as hopeful as the day we drafted him. It's just taken a lot longer than I had hoped.
     
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    yeah, amen to all that, lets hope for an injury free seasom for Greg, that would be so enjoyable to watch
     
  4. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    I ask for a definition of "he will be back"--at 70%? at 100%?

    and someone answers with another lazy meaningless ambiguity, "He will be fine."

    Unless management puts its foot down on expectations, the local and national media will begin a campaign of breathlessly asking McMillan every day, "When will he start?? When will he start?? When will he start?? You aren't REALLY going to keep him on the bench, are you?"

    Last November, instead of giving in to the media and starting him, McMillan should have angrily replied to them all, "Not this season, and next time you ask, you get a punch in the nose from me, you #$$^%"

    If he had limited Oden's minutes and never started him, Oden's injury would have happened later, if at all. Oden is not skilled enough to be our starter for at least a year.
     
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    no one knows for sure about something as fickle as a person's health best guesses are all we've got. Will Armon Johnson be 100% to start the season. No one knows for sure. Expecting definitive answers from message board posters on something that is obviously not set in stone is pretty silly

    So Nate could have anticipated an injury that no one saw coming and further he should have sheltered his prized Big from the breathless media's vicious questions :smiley-squint: I don't think anything dampens the local or national media's interest in Greg as he's the most dynamic story line on the Blazers. No matter what, questions will be there. Oh the horror!

    Greg only averaged 24 MPG last year. For someone who isn't skilled in your opinion (like say Przybilla), in those limited minutes he was a dominant Big with tremendous rebounding, shotblocking and shooting percentages. Starting or coming off the bench has nothing to do with whether a freak injury like the one he suffered happens or not. Dude has to play to develop, and injury is a possibility for everyone.

    choosing to freak out over uncertainties is an option but I'm more of a hope for the best and enjoy the ups and downs type

    STOMP
     
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  6. gatorpops

    gatorpops Allen Crabb hits winning shot on Nov24 vs Blazers

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    I like you post but you can not know this. He just jumped and the knee cap gave way. It was probably not due too much playing. It may have been poor training for him to get that muscle too strong to rip the cap. The coach's decision would have had to be psychic it seems to me..
     
  7. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    He should be good to play at 24 hour fitness in a month.
     
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    It was primed to give way whether at practice, playing part time for full time. He cracked it in a collision with Maggette that was called a bone chip and obviously never really handled correctly. Unfortunate, but he was playing on a ticking bomb.
     
  9. maxiep

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    Do you know that for sure or are you just speculating? It looks like a SWAG to me.
     
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    I can't prove it but I feel they are right. Did Oden ever get evaluated by someone not on the Blazers medical/training staff after the Magette incident?
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I have no idea. I do know that when bones fracture before the age of 25, they generally heal stronger at that point than they were before.
     
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    I think it will take hom a while to be back a 100 %. Probably around January he'll be 100 %.
     
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    But did he get enough time to heal it? I felt like he came back too soon and he was SOO slow during the Houston series (Remember that bricked dunk near the end of game 6?) like something was still wrong. They he went nuts training with Bayno that summer, which would have been ideal were he healthy. I know it IS possible to break a kneecap due to beasting out with monster quads, I just intuitively feel it was that same Magette injury. On the plus side he's had plenty of time to heal since this last one. Oh and he needs to

    WEAR SOME GOD DAMNED KNEE PADS! If Magette can wear a metal knee brace (is that even true?) then GO should be able to wear steel greaves over his shins and knees.
     
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    If you're asking for insider information, I don't have that.

    But I do have enough knowledge on the injury to know that he had a collision a year earlier with Maggette that was located at precisely the same location in which the patella fractured but was just called a "chip". The fracture that happened didn't happen with contact, but with pressure asserted from to the tendon while lunging down to jump. While he's big and strong, the pressure needed to snap a patella on a world-class 20 year old athlete is incredible, and the traditionally it could only happen with some type of fatigue to the bone through disease or Osteoporosis, or a previous injury that fatigued the bone and never healed correctly. This is 2010 and I can tell you with 100% certainty that it not the genetics issue (like Bill Walton and other athletes back in the days prior to modern medicine being able to rule that out). So it really isn't too much of a SWAG to know what could have weakened the bone, especially since there is evidence of the two injuries showing them in the same location.
     
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    Indeed they did.

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/03/blazers_greg_oden_is_fed_up_an.html


    If you read the whole article you get a pretty good idea what the injury was like. I forgot how serious that injury was.
     
  16. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    It's all speculation, but if the fracture to his patella had been a hairline or "stress" fracture it's possible that there wouldn't been enough trauma to the bone to trigger a proper healing response (like you get with a greenstick or comminuted fracture).

    The fact is we'll probably never know what caused his kneecap to explode, all we can do is cross our fingers that he doesn't have some heretofore undiagnosed predisposition to fractures and fragile bones.
     

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