Oden 100% healthy

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  1. Idog1976

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    It is good and a Greg Oden block party video without the Sepia coloring would confirm the video editing genius of the anonymous poster of that video.
     
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    Duncan is one year older, Bynum is just as injury prone and Nene isn't as good. Only Yao is better in the west. Well kaman is good too I suppose. I think Greg has a good shot with the usual caveat, health.
     
  3. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    do you think Toronto will win 30 games?
     
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    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    Ya, if he's healty and starts out in shape he just might do it.
     
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    they should, they got matt barnes for help, oh waii
     
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    We need to show ourselves as an elite team to bolster his chances. If he's healthy (god I hate qualifying all the time, but I hate morons saying "but he's always injured!" more) then I think that is likely as well. I think he has a great shot if he comes in guns blazing and injury free.
     
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    I just flat out miss watching Greg play. He's a great player. Super, super entertaining. I just want Nate to figure out a way to make the offense more fluid with him, Roy and Miller on the floor together.
     
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    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    there's no way. by the time all-star voting is under way, Greg will just be starting to get back into the swing of things coming back from major injury. next year is the absolute earliest, and obviously a lot would have to go right for that to happen. this year we should just be hoping for an injury free year, no need to even think about the all-star game.
     
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    Last year, I could understand people being upbeat over Oden. Hell, I even got caught up in it a bit myself. But now? People need to put down the kool-aid and the crack pipe.

    Maybe I am just in a bad mood today, but do you know what I would like to see? I would like to see the RG crowd act like Oden is invisible. Just sit on their hands and not acknowledge him in any way until he plays at least 60 games. Send a message to Cho, Miller, Allen, et al - NO MORE EXCUSES!
     
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    Right and then if he does stay healthy and puts in a couple of All-Star years and decides to go elsewhere due to that randomly petty and vindictive act (assuming you had the power to make that happen), you'd hate him for leaving the team, probably the same way you hate Bill Walton.

    I think you just like being angry. ;)
     
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    Sorry, should've given you props for your video. It comes in handy when people see a stat like and associate it with some guy struggling to even play the game. They make Oden into some lumbering goof barely able to play with the pros out there. Then you see three minutes of highlights that show more dominance than guys like Bogut or Bargnani would have in 300+ games. So good job by you.
     
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    Other than Bynum, are there any other good centers in the West? Marc Gasol... Yao... fuck, I forgot Yao. Nevermind. Oden has a chance this year if he's playing much better than Bynum or Marc Gasol, since the Chinese will vote Yao in.
     
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    Kaman? Jefferson? Nene?
     
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    Nah, this is just me being sullen and pessimistic. If I was *angry*, I would start rumors about his mother and Rudy! :grim:
     
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    Oden is vastly better then Jefferson and Nene. Jefferson is an elite scorer and rebounder, but I'd take my chances on Oden's health over Jeff's defensive effort any day of the weak. One is a chance the other is a certainty.

    It's between him, Gasol and Kaman. Yao is a shoe in if he is healthy. YAY I got to say that about a Center not named Oden!
     
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    If he's healthy, the Americans will vote Yao in too. He's been the best center in the West when healthy and up there with Dwight Howard for best center in the league.
     
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    I agree Yao is amazing.
     
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    I just want to see him First Team All Defensive at the end of the year. That's probably a more fair goal because it doesn't rely on him exploding right out of the gate like he would to be an All Star.

    It's possible for him to do it, too, since there's some history there of multiple guys being picked at the same position (as recently as 2006 and 2007). So Dwight Howard doesn't preclude Oden from making the first team. And really, there's at least a decent chance that Oden and Howard are the most dominant defensive big men in the league by April.

    If Oden and Batum can both make the first or second All-Defense teams, man, we will have had a really good season. The last teams to have two players do that were Houston (Battier/Artest), Spurs (Duncan/Bowen), and Detroit (Billups/Ben Wallace/Prince). Those have been some elite-caliber defensive teams.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    But those numbers are wrong because he based them off Oden playing 21 MPG in 09-10.

    Oden's per minute production last year was 16.7/12.8/3.4 in 36MPG.
     
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    Use per 36 from http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/odengr01.html

    Drtg 100, TS% .647, 12.8 rebs 16.7 points 3.4blks

    Boom. Hence my guess is pretty reasonable really if he gets 36 minutes. Upped his points by about 1.8 and rebs by 0.7 (from following his own miss on more shots) which reflects Nate "slow to learn/adjust" McMillan figuring out the beast he has in the middle around January.
     

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