Merged: TIme to work the Trade Machine! [Possible Chris Paul trades]

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  1. B-Roy

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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    I can't see the Hornets taking on Aldridge's contract. I just can't.

    When you're rebuilding, you rebuild with cheap young pieces. Aldridge is young, but he is NOT cheap. That's why Batum is so intriguing for them.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    If you're right then one of the other trades in this thread happens or CP3 stays in NOH.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    With the spending this offseason Aldridge's contract looks like a steal, and it's not so much them paying him Okafor's money, but instead paying him what they would have to pay West long term after next season to keep him around. Basically the longterm salaries of Paul, Posey, Okafor, and West(after he's traded) out for LMA and whomever of the young guys they decide to try and keep in. Considering West is going to be 30 this season while Aldridge will be 25 I think that's good value.

    Plus I think they could value Aldridge over Batum or Oden, he's been pretty healthy after his rookie year and has a more "proven" track record than Oden, and he's more "proven" than Batum while also playing a position of somewhat more perceived value (bigs being more valueable than smalls).
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    But that's the thing, if they're rebuilding, they wouldn't even pay West long term, they'd let him walk or trade him away for picks/talent.

    What would New Orleans rather have? A cheap core of Collison, Thornton, Batum, and picks, or an expensive core of Collison, Thornton, and Aldridge? I think it's pretty obvious that Batum holds a lot more value in any Paul trade.

    Well that's something nobody knows. I would guess (And this is just me guessing) that Monty would have an affinity to Batum.
     
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    All good points.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=295zadp

    In this trade Courtney Lee and K. Humphries are salary filler to simulate Derrick Favors as ESPN trade machine is a piece of shit that doesn't let you bypass restrictions.

    NOH would have Aldridge play center alongside Favors. 11 mill for a center with Aldridge's talent is an uber steal and Favors gives you the bone crunching force down low.
     
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    Would you trade Favors for West if you were NJ? Just ask yourself that...
     
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    Not much point in you reading proposals past page 2 or so if you believe that. Batum will be the center piece and we get Paul with another trade mentioned in this thread.
     
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    Turn him into a TPE then.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    Holy crap, man, are you crazy? No way New Orleans wants Kris Humphries!

    More seriously, I don't think New Jersey would be at all tempted to trade Favors for West. West is going to be 30, Favors 19. Favors is cheap, has a higher ceiling and is a much better fit for a team nowhere near contention at the moment.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    Who? West?

    Favors is the 3rd overall pick. Why is NJ trading Favors for a freaking TPE?
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    My guess is he meant turn Favors into a TPE in return for West.
     
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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23xehth

    Ok here we go MEGA CAP RELIEF for NOH.

    They get close to 30 million in cap relief with 13.9 Million+ instantly from West plus Posey.

    Plus they get relief from Joel

    They get LMA and Bayless plus $30 million in relief by next summer. LMA becomes the piece they build around with Collison and Thorton.

    NJN get a partner for Lopez and don't give up any assets but cap space. West being better then anyone next summer outside of Melo.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    Actually, Oden will be the centerpiece. Cho will see to it that Oden is purged from this team at the start of training camp.:supporter:
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    No I meant turn WEST into a TPE.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    Yeah, but then why does NO do it?
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    :yawn:

    I already got baited by a "master" last night, shall not rise for this one... ;)
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    This is why:

    Plus the usual throw in 3 million (don't under estimate that for Shinn), picks, draft rights, rook SnT, euros etc.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    Okay, sorry then. But that doesn't make sense to me. How would New Orleans trade a TPE instead of West, and why would NJ trade Favors for a TPE?
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    I think you're confused...that is what I said about what you meant: Remove Favors from the equation and put in a TPE instead. Thus "Turn Favors into a TPE" in your scenario.
     
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    Re: TIme to work the Trade Machine!

    Ok maybe i'm an idiot. I thought you called it a TPE when you trade say West to a team like NJN who can absorb his contract without returning salary?
     
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