So who do we take?

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  1. WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE

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    Really up in the air for me. I could think of like 10 possibilites. Let's hear some thoughts.
     
  2. KhAoS-CelticsFahLyfe

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    nbadraft.net has us taking brandon royhoopshype has us getting tyrus thomas (a need based not talent based mock)i WANT rudy gayrealistically i want rodney carney, i think hes the next richard jeffersoni think bargani and aldrige will be busts, and if morrison came over it would be like fate or something but he wont fall lower then 5th.who will we take? either roy, carney, or thomas if hoopshype is being realisticand guess what? I HAVE A FLIGHT ON DRAFT DAY [​IMG] but i think i might be able to catch itpoint is, this is exciting!
     
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    Anyone other than Marcus Williams or Randy Foye would be ridiculously stupid. We need another PG, as Delonte and Orien won't cut it, and I highly doubt we will get anyone much better than the young talent in Williams or Foye through free agency, so besides trading it, taking 1 of those two PGs looks like the best and most logical route to go at this point.
     
  4. KhAoS-CelticsFahLyfe

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    i don't hate you but i CANT STAND people who think delonte cant cut it at the point. HE AVERAGED 12/4/5 HIS SECOND YEAR IN THE LEAGUE ON 34 MINUTES A GAME FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>i don't hate you but i CANT STAND people who think delonte cant cut it at the point. HE AVERAGED 12/4/5 HIS SECOND YEAR IN THE LEAGUE ON 34 MINUTES A GAME FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!</div>I agree with you on the fact that people aren't giving Delonte enough of a chance. It was his first year as the starting PG and just because he wasn't amazing people think he can't cut it. To those people's defense though, Delonte's decision making at the PG position was questionable. He was having trouble learning how to run an offense and some people just think he could be more useful at the 2. I don't agree with it, I think he can be a good PG in this league I was just merely showing you why people think that way.
     
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    Not taking a PG in this draft would not be dumb yankshater. I would much rather have a veteran playmaking PG (starting or off the bench, Delonte would be affective both ways). Even someone like Jay Williams making a comeback would be interesting if he comes off strong in workouts.

    But if we decide to take a PG in this draft (Williams/Foye) then I expect for us to trade/sign a big man. And visaversa. If we land a big man in the draft (don't sleep on Shelden Williams people!!!) then signing a veteran PG would be very nice as well.

    The fact is nobody knows what Danny's plan is this summer, and I'm not even sure if he knows yet. So I'm just in "lay back, wait and see" mode. The only thing I would oppose to is Ainge just drafting best available and taking a wing.
     
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    west-will be top 10 pg year after nextdickau-sucks at D but can shoot and is sort of a veterangreene-D and nifty passingwe DON'T NEED A POINT GUARDdraft thomas/gay/morrison/barganiif they arent there, trade the pick to the hornets for jr smith and their lower pick and draft reddick.delonte/dickau/orien/allenwally/allen/reddick/smithpierce/gerald/smith/gomesal/gomes/raef/scalperk/raef/jonesthat lineup is packed with youth. package wally and smith for something GOOD
     
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    Hmm 7th pick celtics, probabely a good idea for them is to trade their pick. Celtics don't really need too much young talent. But say there is no trade. If Tyrus Thomas falls that far back it would be a good pick another strong choice is Marcus Williams.
     
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    Delonte West isnt going to be a top 10 PG, sorry but he is good and PG isnt a position they need, I dont follow the Celtics much so I dont really know what they should do with the pick but I dont think picking a PG will be a good choice
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KhAoS-CelticsFahLyfe @ May 25 2006, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>west-will be top 10 pg year after next
    dickau-sucks at D but can shoot and is sort of a veteran
    greene-D and nifty passing

    we DON'T NEED A POINT GUARD

    draft thomas/gay/morrison/bargani
    if they arent there, trade the pick to the hornets for jr smith and their lower pick and draft reddick.

    delonte/dickau/orien/allen
    wally/allen/reddick/smith
    pierce/gerald/smith/gomes
    al/gomes/raef/scal
    perk/raef/jones

    that lineup is packed with youth. package wally and smith for something GOOD</div>
    Did you really just say we don't need a PG? Well I think you should watch and learn more about basketball.

    Delonte is a natural SG that can play the point and has much better vision than most 2-guards. But the fact is, if Delonte was 2'' taller with the same skill set, he would not be used as a PG much at all. I love Delonte at the point a lot and I do believe he can be our PG of the future.

    But we need playmaker. If we draft Marcus Williams we will have that, but that's a risk in my opinon as well because a rookie PG is risky. I would prefer a veteran playmaker over a rookie PG for this team. We need a PG that can handle the pressure and control the team especially late in games.

    Turnovers are a problem. A veteran PG will lower the turnover numbers.

    You saying we need a big man more than a PG just baffles me and makes me question your knowlege of basketball.

    Delonte West/Orien Greene/Dan Dickau is NOT a better positional rotation than Ryan Gomes/Raef LaFrentz/Kendrick Perkins/Al Jefferson. Our backup young bigs are better than our backup PG's.

    That is not saying we don't need a big man however. I agree we need a big man. One that can control the paint on both ends of the floor and be able to contribute some offensive production.
     
  11. KhAoS-CelticsFahLyfe

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    ok first you criticize me for saying we need a big man which i didn't say and i disagree, and then in your next paragraph u agree that we need a big man?OK BUDDYand marcus williams...busthe's a rich mans orien greene
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KhAoS-CelticsFahLyfe @ May 25 2006, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok first you criticize me for saying we need a big man which i didn't say and i disagree, and then in your next paragraph u agree that we need a big man?
    OK BUDDY
    and marcus williams...bust
    he's a rich mans orien greene</div>
    Read my post again. What I said was:

    You said we needed a PG more than a big man - I said hell no

    Then I said: HOWEVER that does not mean we don't need big man help

    Just because I think we need a PG MORE than a big man, does not mean we don't need a big man at all.
     
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    1st round pick: Marcus Williams - You need a playmaker behind Delonte, and when Delonte is playing his natural position.2nd round pick: Hilton Armstrong - You get strong defense, shot blocking, and a powerful player. He would be good in green..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ May 25 2006, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1st round pick: Marcus Williams - You need a playmaker behind Delonte, and when Delonte is playing his natural position.

    2nd round pick: Hilton Armstrong - You get strong defense, shot blocking, and
    a powerful player. He would be good in green..</div>
    We don't have a 2nd round pick this year.
     
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    I forgot about that..Ehh..I think the C's could use Armstrong, it would be huge if they could land him somehow..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ May 25 2006, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I forgot about that..
    Ehh..I think the C's could use Armstrong, it would be huge if they could land him somehow..</div>
    Hilton Armstrong with the 7th pick would be a joke. Trading down and maybe getting something else (give or take a few throw-ins) maybe. But he is the 2nd comming of Samuel Dalembert to me. A shot blocker who is very long, but will never have any type of offensive game.
     
  17. KhAoS-CelticsFahLyfe

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 25 2006, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Read my post again. What I said was:You said we needed a PG more than a big man - I said hell noThen I said: HOWEVER that does not mean we don't need big man helpJust because I think we need a PG MORE than a big man, does not mean we don't need a big man at all.</div>uh..dude, i said we didnt need a pg a all, therefore we need a big man more. i personally think we need an sf (gay morrison thomas sort of)
     

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