Ellis on the block?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    ESPN Insider has some article up about Monta being available. I know we've talked about him before, but I think he could do very well with Roy.

    Joel, Rudy, and Bayless for Monta.

    Miller, Pendergraph, Cunningham for Landry and Udrih from Sac.

    Monta/Udrih/Johnson
    Roy/Matthews/Williams
    Batum/Babbitt
    Aldridge/Landry
    Oden/Camby

    Nine man rotation of Monta, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Oden, Camby, Matthews, Landry, and Udrih.
     
  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Eww...

    Yeah, just eww. I wouldn't take Ellis if they gave him to us for free.

    And second trade is just laugh worthy for Sacramento. Udrih isn't a bad contract anymore.
     
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    [video=youtube;dly6p4Fu5TE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE[/video]

    Anyhow, look at Ellis' Ortg and Drtg the past two years, and then tell me how you think he'd do on a good team that actually expects some defense and some discipline on offense.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ellismo01.html
     
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  4. Ed O

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    I'm not a fan of Ellis. He's a fragile, undersized high-volume shooter who's making a LOT of money.

    Let GS keep him.

    Ed O.
     
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    How does a player on the WARRIORS end up with a sub-100 Ortg two seasons in a row?

    No wonder he's available. He's fucking terrible in terms of being efficient and helping his team win games.
     
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    He's terrible as a #1 option. Look at where he was 2 years ago, when there were other options on the team. He was at 117 ORTG. Same Roy had this season. His 111 DRtg can easily be attributed to overall scheme and poor team defense. Having an Oden, Przybilla or Camby down low would make his DRtg look better.
     
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    He had a sub 100 ORtg with a USG% of over 29 (Roy had a 26.7 last year to go along with his 117 Ortg). That's ridiculously bad for Ellis, and his $11 million contract is baffling and not worth taking on, IMO.


    That may well be the worst contract in the NBA right now.
     
  8. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I go back and forth on Ellis. I think he's a talent, but he plays such a different style of ball and has gotten so used to being "the man" that I'm not sure it would end well if he came here and played tug of war with Nate and Brandon. Total high risk, high reward kind of move ... but one I would pass on.
     
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    I think Ellis was a talented young player 2 years ago, when he was pushing a 20 PER at age 22. I'm just worried, similar to Luol Deng, that his ability level has changed due to injuries.

    I wouldn't deal Bayless for him. Ellis is several years older, much more expensive and has only been a little more effective recently than Bayless was last season.
     
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    RoyToy Clown Town

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    You're ridiculous.
     
  11. BoomChakaLaka

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    I had thought earlier of bringing Monta and Beidrins over in a trade. High risk, high reward as has been stated.

    However, if Ellis is indeed on the block, GSW and Portland may want to talk about finding a third team....

    New Jersey?
    New Orleans?
    And of course...
    Kahn! LOL
     
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    You have shamed me with your well-reasoned analysis. :(
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Checkmate?

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    At least. And here I was thinking we were playing Yahtzee. Total blindside.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I love his game, but I wonder if it is a product of the Nellie System? Could he thrive in Nate's?
     
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    I remember Ellis having some very nice games against us, including one game where he totally outplayed Roy and led the Warriors to a blow-out win. I'm talking about this last year. I don't watch many of the other team's games when it's not against the Blazers so I wouldn't know what's the reason for the low numbers presented here, but from what I've seen of the Warriors, he's clearly their best player. I'm not sure he's 100% POINT-guard but I think between him and Roy, there'll be enough Point-guard skills in the backcourt.

    How about this trade: Andre Miller and Marcus Camby for Ellis and Biedrins? maybe add a future pick because we're trading old for young. (we're also trading shorter contracts for much longer)
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    He's not their most talented player (that's Steph Curry) and that trade is awful.
     
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    not a big fan of inefficient, mini me SG... especially one that can't shoot the three in this system. Hell, Bayless could put up Ellis' numbers if he was the man in an uptempo system. And he'd play slightly better D than Ellis.

    Pass!

    Although Bedrins would be a nice pickup! I just can't watch him at the FT line... yuck!
     
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    I agree with NateBishop that Ellis would be a good addition to this team. He could take some pressure off Roy during the first three quarters of the game and be another player the opposing team must guard. I also think he would blend in fine with the winning culture we have and he wouldn't be a prima donna if here.

    Our team needs another go-to player. His style fits nicely with Roy and his ball-dominating ways.
     
  20. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Ellis' usage rate 29%
    Roy's usage rate 27%

    How is that going to work out?
     

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