We are in a Bizarro economy

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    They redid the BK rules a few years ago. They don't really work hard to make the profit. They make much more, the guy with the TV loses bigtime.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    its this attitude which is going to ensure America's demise. well, not this, I think the supression of what is really going on in America combined with the dumbing down of mass media is ignoring a whole majority of fucked up Americans.

    Its way worse than any bar graph, employment numbers, or whatever is released.
     
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    Well if credit card companies don't work hard to make profits and the demise of the country is people living life in debt and growing their debt through credit cards companies. . . maybe the moron is the guy in debt, but I can tell you where the problem in society lies . . . the company allowing people to bury themselves, if fact helping them bury themselves, while not working hard and making big profits.

    Sounds like they shouldn't be reforming the BK laws as much as reforming the credit card laws.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    People can still pay for cash for TVs. This article kind of touched on it where they buy TVs instead of toothpaste.
     
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    Declare BK? Burger King? How does that help?

    What is it lately with all these meaningless made up initials?
     
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    But it's not cash buys that are the demise of the counrty, it is apparently the growing debt these people build up buying things they can't afford. The problem is personal debt and apparently the companies allowing this debt to grow are making big profits doing this while not even working hard while their clients bury themselves.

    The new abnormal has given rise to a nation of schizophrenic consumers. They splurge on high-end discretionary items and cut back on brand-name toothpaste and shampoo

    I perosnally wouldn't do that, but who are we to judge where people spend thier money. If someone wants to save money shopping at a grocery stoer and take those saving and spend it on a luxury item, if they aren't going into debt, then what is the problem with that. If they are going into debt doing that, I think it's wrong. But maybe they something should be done to avoid allowing people to go into such massive debt.
     
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    Can't you see the relationship between spending one's cash affecting their debt?
     
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    [video=youtube;Ubsd-tWYmZw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubsd-tWYmZw&playnext=1&videos=fI9KbX4sRXI[/video]
     
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    Sure . . . can you see that credit card companies also have the ability to affect one's debt.

    You want to put it all on the consumer and say this will be the demise of the country (which it won't). All I'm saying if this is the demise of the country there is a very easy fix to it. Don't try fixing the consumer (that is a hopeless battle) jsut don't give them credit to bury themselves and stop allowing credit card companies to make all this easy cash while the country is going down the tubes (according to you).
     
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    If you shut down the CC companies, consumers will just find another way.
     
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    So we shut down the CC companies and people end up declaring BK and end up in the SH and on WF until their SCI and then they can be GC and not BC.
     
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    TDT
     
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    So the problem with American society is that people aren't responsible for themselves, and companies should be responsible for keeping individuals from hurting themselves? Interesting. I feel that the demise of the country is because individuals aren't required to take responsibility for themselves anymore. It is always somebody else's fault, or somebody else or the government should fix the individuals' problems.
     
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    It isn't my responsibility to keep you from harming yourself.
     
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    I wish I could rep you a hundred times for this post. Personal responsibility (or more accurately the lack thereof) is the crux of most of our problems.
     
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    You bolded my conclusion but that was based on if a statement is true . . . which I don't think that statement is true.

    I don't see a demise to the country. US, like many other countries in the world, are going through hard economic times. People want to start saying these hard economic times are leading to a path straight down to the demise of US. That just isn't true.

    I believe poeple should have to take responsiblity for thier actions. I also believe the gov't needs to control big business that has one objective, to make money. Businesses (most) don't care about people or society, they care about making a profit. In fact I will go so far as to say that many businesses will take advantage of people, especially the naive and needy.

    But yes I think personal accountability should come into play when forming laws and policies.
     
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    That's not true. The true UE rate is close to 20% because of people who came off of UE rolls, are self-employed but not working, or just flat-out quit trying to find a job. One would think that a Harvard economist would acknowledge real UE, and not just those supposedly "seeking work" or still eligible for UE benefits that are counted on the "official" UE rate.
     
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    But if the demise of the US is because of these people hurting themselves (which it isn't), then shouldn't the gov't step in to stop these people from hurting themselves for the good of the country and to stop the demise of teh US?

    And why exactly is suicide illegal?
     
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    Says the banker. :D

    I say the root of the economic problems lies in the finacial sector of our country. :D
     
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    If frogs had wings, etc, etc... :)
     

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