Carmello available?

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  1. Rhal

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    No way that if we get Carmello he stays. If we traded for him it would be with the agreement he signed and extension but he won't because he wants to go to NY. I honestly don't even want him on the blazers anyway, he is a threat whenever he has the ball in his hands but his attitude is not very good and I think there would be problems when in crunch time the ball goes to Roy's hands and not his.
     
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    The main reason I would be interested in Carmelo is that he is a winner (college and NBA). He is tough and knows how to win. Brandon is very good, but really hasn't had much overall team success in college or the NBA. Carmelo brings a certain amount of respect and toughness that would work well on this team.

    I'm pretty sure there would be no way to add him, but if there was I would take him.
     
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    He also has Lebrons #! Been beating him since high school! Lebron has a kryptonite and it's Mello...
     
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    Prime Roy will probably continue being better than Melo.
     
  5. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Absolutely none.

    He won't sign and extension with Denver, but for some reason he's going to extend with us because? ...
     
  6. Reep

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    hypothetical, but ". . . because Portland has a young team that can compete for years to come with possibly two other legit all-stars (Roy Oden)." Billups and K-Mart are not getting any younger.
     
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    By what measure? Playoff win percentage goes heavily in Melo's favor. I hope Brandon can stay on the court and learn to involve his teammates better--then maybe you will be right.
     
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    Melo is the typical fast paced offensive guy on a solid team, so you can't use raw numbers. Roy is on an extremely slow offense.

    Melo has made it out of the first round once, with Billups getting hot in that post-season.
     
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    Don't forget he did pretty well in college as well. Brandon made the tourney, Melo cut down the nets.

    I'm not using stats, which do vary by pace. I'm talking about team success. Melo is seen as a top tier player in the league by default. To this point, Brandon is still fighting to make his way there.
     
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    I guess we should judge players by draft position then, if they're vaguely comparable?

    Well keep it to team success then, as in Melo's teammates. It is because of Billiups and a solid team that he's even made it out of the first round in 7 trips. Theories means nothing, Carmelo Anthony has not played at Roy's level in the NBA.

    College championships have nothing to do with their prime in the NBA, or how players continue to develop.
     
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    I understand what you are saying. I just disagree.
     
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    Joe Johnson and Carmelo Anthony were very silly selections on the All-NBA teams.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=hmnOY

    As you can see, Prime Roy is crushing Anthony in the post-season. Sure he was injured this year, but Melo is not a great post-season player so I can't buy this "team success" thing. Roy might have even been better than Wade in the 09 playoffs as well, Houston has a much better defense than Atlanta.

    They've had similar careers so far, but my comment about Roy's Prime is accurate.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    He's already intimated that he might like to join Amare' (and possibly CP3) in NY and play in Dantoni's wide open offense. You really think that if he had to pick between the bright lights and big market of New York and Nate's grind it snail ball and small dreary Portland that he'd pick the Blazers? If so, you're a helluva lot more optimistic than I am.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    He's already intimated that he might like to join Amare' (and possibly CP3) in NY and play in Dantoni's wide open offense. You really think that if he had to pick between the bright lights and big market of New York and Nate's grind it snail ball and small dreary Portland that pick the Blazers? If so, you're a helluva lot more optimistic than I am.
     
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    Has Carmelo said he is looking to move to a team with a wide open offense, or a team with other stars that can win? I thought he was looking to team up like LeBron did. The NY thing is a pipe dream. They wouldn't be there unless they can get Paul to join them and I don't think they will have the space to sign Paul after the other two. Not to mention this whole thing puts his money at risk by waiting a year. Who knows what the new CBA will be. What if he gets injured?

    All I'm saying is if he wants to win, joining Portland would give him a better shot than he has with the aging Denver team. If he wants to risk it by playing out his deal and not getting extended just to play with Amare in NYC, then more power to him--but I think he will regret it (if he really wants to win a title).
     

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