(OT) Chad Ford: 4 team deal in the works

Yeah read my response to el presidente above. If it took batum it weren't worth doing. Our list of potential PGOTF's grows thin.

 

Indeed.

 

Bayless and Lee (and Lowry, who they overpaid) are pretty similar, and iirc, Morey was very high on Rudy in the 07 draft. We could have potentially replaced Indiana/NJ if we threw in Joel.

Essentially:
Arizato NO
Collison/Posey to PDX
Rudy/Bayless/Joel to Hou (given Joel's contract being paid mostly by insurance, HOU would have gotten a similar relief to their payroll)

 

coulda, woulda, shoulda... we know nothing really

 

Maybe. But who is to say that having another big on board isn't more important? I would also point out, that New Orleans also preferred to send Collison to the eastern conference, so they wouldn't have to face him much.

 

I wouldn't want Portland to do that deal. I don't put much value on Fernandez, but I value Bayless similarly to Collison and the Przybilla for Posey swap (essentially) is a significant value to New Orleans. For me, it would be either Bayless OR salary relief (plus some combination of Cunningham, Pendergraph, Babbitt, Williams). Not both. (Rudy can be a throw-in for either version.)

 

And Indiana's LOOOOOOONG search for a Point Guard continues.

Maybe this guy will stick.

How long has it been for them? I know they had Tinsley for a while, but they were never satisfied with him. What, you have to go back to Mark Jackson?

 

There's still time ... After all, Miller is potentially under contract for two more years (he's only an expiring contract if the team wants him to be), Bayless may not be ideal as the backup point guard but he's probably passable for fifteen minutes a night this coming year, Johnson might surprise people and turn into a credible rotation player (not right away). I want to see the team address the point guard spot as much as the next guy and despite the sense of urgency many of us feel surrounding the kludge of guards and the need to thin the roster or consolidate them into some kind of clear cut upgrade maybe there's something else out there?

It took me two years of hearing KP talking about how much he had to force himself to sit on his hands before I started to question whether he actually maybe wasn't all that capable of a deal maker (or maybe willing is a better word?). Similarly, Cho probably should get at least a couple of months on the job before we start to question his ability or willingness to make trades.

I have nothing to back this up but a gut feeling; I don't think we'll see a "big" deal consummated until around the trade deadline.

 

Not fair to bash Cho on this one. As I understand it, even tough the deal is done, he is still analyzing this trade to see how it can help us. Next week he sends it to Nate McMillan for approval, then the week of Aug. 22nd it goes to Larry Miller, and due to Paul Allen being on his yacht, it goes to him to sign off on in mid Sept.

 

such a bad deal for the rockets.

 

It is a process ...

 

FWIW, a poster on realgm with some insight says...

 

And we have another trade.

 

the rockets just made their roster less balanced. lee is really just a sg. ariza is an athletic 3 who can guard any perimeter spot and showed more playmaking ability this year than lee has ever shown(though that's not a strength of his). losing ariza means that the rockets only defensive option against bigger 3s is battier.

ariza should do very well in new orleans. he's a perfect complimentary player and i'd be shocked in he didn't thrive there in the role as 3rd(and sometimes even 4th) option. he definitely should have a positive impact on their chances at keep paul.

definitely good for indiana. collison's value seems to have been vastly overrated. he's a very good backup pg, but he'll be in the bottom 3rd of starting pgs. but it fills a huge need for the pacers and they don't need collison to turn into a star to have gotten good value.

they get a big expiring to play with.

 

Wow. There's the blockbuster we've all been waiting for. Forget LeBron and Bosh to Miami...

 

Bellinelli is barely better than a hot plate of garbage, but he can shoot it a little, so I guess there's that.

 

i feel like those 3 players are vastly different. lee's strength is spot up shooting. bayless and lowry are at their best attacking the basket, but bayless is more creating for himself while lowry is creating for others.

 

Microsoft had a big security hole in Microsoft Office and is releasing a service pack update later this week. Cho has to wait until the Excel update is complete before he can make an evaluation on a player/trade/team/dinner.

 

But I thought Daryl Morey is the GM-prototype of the future? I move where advanced statistics rules over general basketball judgement?