Would you trade LMA for Kevin Love. . .

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  1. Ed O

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    They're not really centers, so I'm not sure that's relevant.

    As to which player teams would want: given their ages and contract statuses, I bet that many would prefer Love.

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    I didn't mean them being centers, I'm just saying straight up, $$$$$ no factor, team needs no factor, which player is better? Who would you want to put out there against Tim Duncan, STAT, battle against Dirk? How can you say Love is a better player?
     
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    Ed, you are letting your new promotion get to your head! You have lost what common sense you used to have!
     
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    I don't care about a game tomorrow on its own. I care about net present value of players, which is today and the future (discounted for uncertainty).

    In terms of today, alone? I think there's very little difference between them. I think what Love does he does better, including passing and rebounding than the things Aldridge does better (run the floor, block a few more shots). The Blazers are one of the few teams with very good rebounding at the 5 spot, so Love might have less value to them than other teams... but offensive rebounding is very valuable out of a power forward, and Love does that.

    He's over THREE YEARS younger than Aldridge and is already (again, IMO) the same level of player. In three years Love will probably be significantly better than Aldridge is today.

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    Man! Obviously basketball knowledge is not a prerequisite to move up in the corporate world of S2! Congrats on your promotion and cute blue font on your name...... As the great ZachAddy once said, "Learn the game then post!" HAHA!
     
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    Aldridge might have a slightly better outside game.

    Love has a clearly superior inside game.

    Love also has clearly superior rebounding skills.

    Love has slightly better passing skills.

    Aldridge is better on defense. (I don't say clearly because I think it is insane to say Aldridge is an 'excellent' defender or that he 'can guard anyone'. That is ridiculous. I think it could be a stretch to say he is an average defender.)

    Anyways, I take Love.
     
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    you throw these two things out like they're offsetting when they're not even close. Love did a little better overall in the athletic test but LA is a significantly longer. The result of this is that LA has the decided advantage in vertical reach at all times which allows him to contest more shots. Having a decided length advantage allows a player to contest more passes/shots the 95% of the time that they're not jumping too... this is a particularly important attribute for Bigs trying to contest driving guards or get off their own look

    to the OP... this has got to be at least the 3rd thread devoted to this hypothetical in the last 6 months. While you might still resent "LaWussy" for being selected ahead of your special towel-waver and of course we're hurting for topics right about now, but :deadhorse: no one is changing their mind

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    there is a lot more to D then just shotblocking. I've watched enough Wolves games to form an opinion that Love is below average at most of them. Guys shoot right over him without concern. He makes a token effort at contesting his man's shot, but like Zach and David Lee he's resigned to just hoping for a miss and a board. Guards drive the paint on him knowing they'll get to the hoop or line. Definitely not the kind of Big I want to allot starter money to

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    Love > Lamarcus. I think Lamarcus has the potential to be on the same level as Amare or Bosh...I just don't think he has the heart and desire to do so. Also, we really don't know what to expect from LMA every night....with KLove you know you're going to get a double double.
     
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    I really don't view Love as having a terribly high ceiling and there will always be limitations to his game because of the way he is built.
     
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    I'm glad you added it was just your opinion because the stats don't say so.

    You also left out that Aldridge is better at creating his own shot.
     
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    Ahhh we still can't get over the Morrison thing I see.

    Resentment no. I've given LMA plenty of time, I liked his potential during first couple years, but he is what he is now. After seeing how Amare bullied him in the playoffs, I've come to the conclusion that maybe he isn't untradeable like I used to think. Not everything's black and white, love or hate STOMPY boy. I was over the Morrison thing a long time ago, I think I even made a post saying that I made a mistake and that Roy and Aldridge were the better pick. I see you still haven't gotten over it though. Who was the prospect you touted that turned out to be a flop?

    P.S. If all else fails in a conversation/debate with MickZagger bring up Adam Morrison, its a real zinger.
     
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    Kevin Love avg 13/10 on 43% shooting post all-star break. A sweet 27.8% from 3 while averaging 2 attempts per game.

    Gross.
     
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    Coming off a broken hand? The guy was shooting with a glove for most the season.
     
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    Do you not see the ridiculously bad logic in your post?

    You say Kevin Love is nowhere near as well rounded as Aldridge, so he won't be an all star. But Aldridge can be if he rebounds better. Well then...couldn't Love be an all-star if he improved in whatever it is you think he falls short? Yes. (I'm still not sure what that is. Actually, I doubt you do either.)

    Don't let facts get in the way of making a post with a 'funny' quote at the end. (even if you don't know your from you're.)

    Per 36 minutes -

    Advantage Kevin Love: scoring, offensive and defensive rebounding, assists, steals, fta, ft%

    Advantage Lamarcus Aldridge: blocks, fg%, turnovers

    They're actually fairly close in everything but rebounding, where Love is MUCH better and fg% where Aldridge is quite a bit better. Then again, Love is 3 years younger than Aldridge.
     
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    Per 36 minutes my ass, you either average the numbers or you don't.
     
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    LA COULD be as good as Bosh or STAT...... Love has NO chance!
     

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