(OT) Chad Ford: 4 team deal in the works

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  1. rocketeer

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    an mle deal for a player of ariza's caliber is not overpaying.
     
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    I have to admit that I'm disappointed we didn't step in with a better offer- maybe Joel/Batum for Collison/Okafor/ and an unprotected pick. Gives them salary relief, a young stud- gives us security at the center position, our point guard of the future and a pick.
     
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    Indiana had to send a big to Houston to get Collison. Portland doesn't really have a consistently healthy big to offer that would make that a fair deal. Maybe the Blazers could have offered something else, but I wouldn't assume that just offering them a decent player at a wing position and/or an expiring contract would have made it an outright done deal.
     
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    you'd really give up batum for collison?
     
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    Okay, underpaid and STILL had to dump him. Better?
     
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    Yep- a promising 3 with good defense for a promising 1 with good defense. I would have given up Batum for G. Wallace also.
     
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    Courtney Lee is not "a big".
    Troy Murphy ended up in NJ.
    Count me as glad Portland was not involved in this shenanigans.
     
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    That's why he's not GM.
     
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    Oops, backwards. Well, replace Houston with New Jersey in my post.
     
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    i'd say it's more like paid the correct amount and then ended up trading him but i really don't think they had to dump him(which is why i dislike the deal).
     
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    I don't see how pointing out that Portland didn't get Darren Collison is "speculation". The fact is that Collison was just traded to another team. We were all dreaming of Chris Paul last month, and that pipe dream was just shattered. Even worse, we don't even have a chance at Collison now.
     
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    Andre Miller has never been past the first round of the playoffs. An old Grant Hill shut his ass down after Game 1 of the playoffs last year. Andre Miller is a "Top Ten" PG like Zach Randolph is a "Top Ten" PF. Who fucking cares when they can't do shit when it matters, and are worthless on defense?
     
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    If the idea was to have Pritchard run the draft, and target Wes Matthews, then fire Kevin, and then hire Cho to tend to the garden all summer ... why?

    Has Cho decided on dinner tonight, or is he making the other customers feel awkward by asking them what they ordered?
     
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    but darren collison is the answer to all problems? at least it makes more sense than the ridiculous sessions love here from the recent past, but seriously, collison is not an impact player.
     
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    What's your opinion of Aaron Brooks?
     
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    he's far more of an impact player than collison at this point and i think it's likley that he'll remain for more of an impact player than collison for their entire careers. and i'd prefer kyle lowry to collison as well.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=1&p1=brookaa01&y1=2010&p2=collida01&y2=2010

    Let's just say I see them as very comparable talents ... and I'm being generous here allowing 3 years of cumulative play for Brooks compared to Collison's lone season. I guess time will tell.
     
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    when brooks gets to pad his stats starting and playing 40 minutes a night for a team as bad as the one collison was playing for, get back to me. the hornets went 13-24 in collison's 37 starts. is it that hard for a guy to put up numbers when they don't matter?
     
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    No, it isn't. In fact, if the team were bad enough, you or I could put up great numbers in the NBA. ;)

    You're generally quite logical, but the "numbers on bad teams don't count for anything" argument is remarkably weak. I'd love to see evidence that it was easier for Collison to play well against other NBA defenses because his teammates were bad.

    I actually agree that Collison is not a major impact player right now. I think Brooks isn't one either but Collison might become one with more experience and age.
     

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