Are you viewing "mutilated women"? I'm not sure what that means exactly but crandc said something about them.
I could see how someone might argue implants, airbrushing, and shaving ALL body hair is very artificial...
It depends upon your view of "unfaithful". Since you're not actually having sex with another than your wife, some would say 'no'. If it prevents you from having sex with your wife, some might say 'yes'. If it puts you in the mood and you end up laying your wife as a result, some might say 'no'. If Jesus words about lusting after another in your heart is in itself an act of infidelity, then maybe 'yes'.
If it is only in one's loins, instead of one's heart, does it still count? I'm surprised Jesus had the internetz, however. Didn't they all use 1200bps modems on a BBS those days?
I didn't say which person was being unfaithful. In the case of a divorce, one or both of the parties involved are breaking a vow. That is being unfaithful.
Just curious, would you prefer people wait longer to get married, to get to know the person better? Or is it just a matter of being more committed and put more effort into their marriages?
Only if you're talking about a marriage structured that way, like a traditional Christian marriage, with the "for better or worse" vows. It's perfectly reasonable to marry without lifetime commitment promises. In which case, a divorce isn't breaking a vow or unfaithful.
Whatever. This entire thread is based on the typical assumption that the relationship was exclusive and commitments had been made to each other. Not to mention the whole "death do us part" isn't just a "Christian marriage" thing.
I personally think it is a combination of the two. I think our society has moved in a direction where people don't feel the need to take full responsibility for their actions and follow through on their commitments. It isn't just marriage. Our society has become a bunch of cowards who want to blame somebody else for all of their own problems.
I waited a LOOOONG time to get married, both in terms of my age (late 30s) and how long I dated my wife-to-be (six years). I doubted my ability to stay faithful for the rest of my life to one woman, so I sowed as many wild oats as I could before I made a commitment. And after all that marriage is still a TON of work, but it's good work if you can get it.
I, on the other hand, was 18 when I got married. However, I had known my bride-to-be for almost 6 years by that point, and she had been my best friend for 3 years before we began dating (for 2 more). But I also believe that even if a couple of teenagers get married after only 2 weeks, if they both have the attitude that marriage is permanent, that divorce is not an option, and that the goal of marriage is to make your spouse's life better (rather than expecting them to fulfill you), then I don't think age all that relevant.
Agreed 100%. I was merely talking about my own personal flaws. You're a much better person than I am. There is no way I would have been ready to make any kind of commitment, much less a life long one, at 18.
I wasn't referring to open marriages. But you can be exclusive and make commitments without those commitments being lifetime commitments. It's from the Book of Common Prayer, which is a Christian thing. In any case, I used Christian marriage as an example of such marriages, not the only kind that calls for a lifetime vow.
