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  1. melo

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    who is called underrated too many times that he actually becomes overrated?Shawn marion fits that mould perfectly. This is how marion can score1- Floater2- 3 pointer3- Alley opp4- Offense rebound then putback.Marion cannot create anything for himself, i don't believe he'd average 15ppg without a good PG. 70% of shots are assisted on and yet some people were claiming he was the mvp of the suns [​IMG]
     
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    hmmm, maybe if you didn't seem biased against the Suns I could take this more seriously.Marion is a great player, who often has to guard the big man and still brings down big rebounds, blocks shots and steals the ball better than most people in the league.
     
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    Marion is not overrated. He has a ok shot. He could score though. The suns dont run plays for him. But he is a great deffensive player. He could go from covering a guard to tim duncan.
     
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    I actually like Shawn marion. The list of people on the suns i hate are1- Steve Nash2- Mark Dantoni3- Raja belledit: He cannot guard the best player in the league when he got abused by Lamar odom.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ May 26 2006, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually like Shawn marion. The list of players i hate on the suns are1- Steve Nash2- Mark Dantoni3- Raja bell</div> [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ May 26 2006, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>who is called underrated too many times that he actually becomes overrated?Shawn marion fits that mould perfectly. This is how marion can score1- Floater2- 3 pointer3- Alley opp4- Offense rebound then putback.Marion cannot create anything for himself, i don't believe he'd average 15ppg without a good PG. 70% of shots are assisted on and yet some people were claiming he was the mvp of the suns [​IMG]</div>Are you sure he wouldn't??? Because in the three seasons he played w/o Nash or Kidd he averaged 19.8 ppg. Seriously though it only seems like your just biased against the Suns. Marion is a great player. What your saying could be arguably true if Marion was only a scorer. That isnt the case though. Shawn Marion is the best rebounder on the Suns, best defender, a pretty good shot blocker, a great dunker, very athletic and quick, and does a lot of the dirty work for the Suns. Not to mention that he plays against people that have a good 2-4 inches on him a lot of the time.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I actually like Shawn marion. The list of people on the suns i hate are1- Steve Nash2- Mark Dantoni3- Raja bell</div>BTW lol its Mike D'Antoni not Mark and hes the head coach not a player lol
     
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    melo, how can you hate a coach? :unsure:and i think Marion is overrated as a scorer, but not necessarily as a player. Except for by the ppl that said he was MVP of the suns. that's just ridiculous.
     
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    Well, you could make a case about that. If they didn't have Marion they wouldn't have been in this position right now. If they didnt have Nash same thing. But I have to agree, Nash is more important to the Suns.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Are you sure he wouldn't??? Because in the three seasons he played w/o Nash or Kidd he averaged 19.8 ppg. Seriously though it only seems like your just biased against the Suns. Marion is a great player. What your saying could be arguably true if Marion was only a scorer. That isnt the case though. Shawn Marion is the best rebounder on the Suns, best defender, a pretty good shot blocker, a great dunker, very athletic and quick, and does a lot of the dirty work for the Suns. Not to mention that he plays against people that have a good 2-4 inches on him a lot of the time.</div>I was in the process of posting what you did in bold. Great minds think alike :happy0144:
     
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    Why i hate Dantoni1- After game 7, he said "We kicked the lakers ass, now let's kick the clippers ass"2- He coaches the sunsAnd marbury was good back in 2003, the year he took the spurs to game 6. I would love to see Marion play with a medicore pg.Honestly, how can you be an mvp where no players are set for you? How many times have you seen the suns clear our for him to take his oponent?
     
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    surely if no plays are set for him and he still scores the amount he does it only makes it more impressive?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 27 2006, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>surely if no plays are set for him and he still scores the amount he does it only makes it more impressive?</div>Just look at how he scores. How can an mvp canditate be assisted on 70% of his shots?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ May 26 2006, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why i hate Dantoni1- After game 7, he said "We kicked the lakers ass, now let's kick the clippers ass"2- He coaches the sunsAnd marbury was good back in 2003, the year he took the spurs to game 6. I would love to see Marion play with a medicore pg.Honestly, how can you be an mvp where no players are set for you? How many times have you seen the suns clear our for him to take his oponent?</div>LOL wow just from that post i can tell how much your just a suns hater and thats it lol.
     
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    I hate the suns, i must admit that. However, i don't hate everyone on the team. Boris Diaw is one of my favourite players, barbosa the brazilian blur is also one i like. I just don't like the classless punks on their team.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ May 26 2006, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate the suns, i must admit that. However, i don't hate everyone on the team. Boris Diaw is one of my favourite players, barbosa the brazilian blur is also one i like. I just don't like the classless punks on their team.</div> [​IMG] classless punks!and you list Kobe as one of your favourite players, pure class that he is.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ May 26 2006, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why i hate Dantoni1- After game 7, he said "We kicked the lakers ass, now let's kick the clippers ass"2- He coaches the sunsAnd marbury was good back in 2003, the year he took the spurs to game 6. I would love to see Marion play with a medicore pg.Honestly, how can you be an mvp where no players are set for you? How many times have you seen the suns clear our for him to take his oponent?</div>Yeah your not biased [​IMG] And Marbury is a shoot first pg. Your just a suns hater.
     
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    lol yeah! Marion is vastly overrated.I mean, he only made the top 5 in all the defensive stats, score 20 points in a balanced offense, become a DPOY candidate, grab 11 boards a night when he is 6"7, become an athletic freak on offense and stretch the defense apart.I cant believe people like this guy! He sucks!:rolleyes:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ May 26 2006, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why i hate Dantoni1- After game 7, he said "We kicked the lakers ass, now let's kick the clippers ass"2- He coaches the sunsAnd marbury was good back in 2003, the year he took the spurs to game 6. I would love to see Marion play with a medicore pg.Honestly, how can you be an mvp where no players are set for you? How many times have you seen the suns clear our for him to take his oponent?</div>Get to know your ball man.You just contradicted yourself about Marbury, first your saying hes good, then mediocre (btw learn to spell before you post it).And seriously, your bieng very biased just cuz the suns whooped the lakers ass 3 games in a row. Now, first your saying he has set plays, now your saying he doesnt, contradictory again. The fact that he doesnt have set plays is more impressive since he doesnt have plays purposely to score the ball, yet still averages low 20's ppg.EDIT: And its D'Antoni
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 26 2006, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>[​IMG] classless punks!and you list Kobe as one of your favourite players, pure class that he is.</div>LMFAO BURN thats is so true though. ow you gonna call a player on the Suns a classless punk when your favorite player is one of the biggest. I dont see how even one player on the Suns is a "classless punk"
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ May 26 2006, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate the suns, i must admit that.</div>Biased.
     

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