Merged: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

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  1. Nikolokolus

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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    http://www.82games.com/0910/09NYK10.HTM
    26% from three point range, a piddly 50% effective field goal percentage, 62% of his total shots were jumpers of which he only posted a 39% mark on effective field goald percentage ... he's not a shooter
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    For those that want a nice breakdown of his FG%, you see his shot chart broken into zones at the link below. He's a legit threat from most sports on the floor.

    http://www.nba.com/hotspots/
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    What's all this talk about a trade? Rudy is going back to Spain.




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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    Would anyone claim LA "jumpshot is atrocious"? Because, .021% separates them.
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    I like Wilson Chandler. I don't give a shit if he smokes weed. Come on people it is well known 60+ percentage of NBA players smoke weed. He just got caught. Hell Rudy smokes weed too. You think his "taking a hit off the joint" gesture after making a 3 pointer last year was because he is a good boy?
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    I don't want someone stupid enough to get caught. The correlation to pot smoking players and lengthy careers is pretty good, if the talent is there. Look at Kareem and Charles Oakley. Hell, even Cliff Robinson. I have no problem with smoking it if you're (a) talented enough to make an impact at 35, and (b) smart enough not to get caught. Because if you're too stupid to keep it on the down low, you're probably also too stupid to play team basketball well enough to help a team win.
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    Yeah this was my take as well. Pot or alcohol...all the same to me. It was the getting caught that raises the eyebrows. It was pretty stupid to have that much in your car. And No I do not believe it was one of his boy's stash.

    Having said that.....if he can play, I can over look it. I have seen games where he looked pretty damn good.
     
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    Oh ok then... Jesus :grin:
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    Wilson Chandler has been vindicated!!

    Better to just man up to it, shiet.
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?


    Yea Robert Parrish got caught once. He sure sucked... Anybody who smokes weed can get caught if put in the wrong situation. Thats part of the risk. It's not like he was JR Rider smoking out of a pop can when the officer came up.
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    He had a slightly better season. He scored more, but on pretty ordinary efficiency which simply speaks to him shooting more. His PER was below average and only a tiny bit ahead of Rudy.

    I'd probably rather have Chandler because he's younger, but Rudy's rookie season was significantly better than any season Chandler has had. So neither team would be getting a great deal. As a Portland fan, this deal wouldn't thrill me, but I'm ready to move on from Fernandez and Chandler seems close enough in value not to feel like a pure dumping of Rudy.
     
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    Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

    That's effective field goal percentage which accounts for the fact that 3 point shots are 1.5 times more valuable than a two point shot. If Chandler didn't take those 2 and half 3 point attempts per game and hit a lousy 26% of them his eFG% would be even worse.

    As for LMA, those long twos he takes are the worst shots in basketball, the fact that he hits them at around 46% makes it tolerable, but if he really wanted to add value to his game he'd just take the extra step back and shoot it from behind the arc.
     
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    What the hell would we do with Chandler? He's gonna be a RFA next summer, so he will want to play, and I don't want to play his one dimensional game over Nic's.

    Unless we can move Chandler to a third team that can net us ~15th pick in next year's draft, I'm not interested.
     
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    FWIW, I haven't seen him play at all, but the somewhat old DraftExpress review doesn't sound too far off from where he is now:

     
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    I didn't see much defense out of him whenever I watched NY. He looked like an Outlaw clone, with more slashing ability and a weaker J.
     
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    I just want to state for the record that I think a Rudy for Chandler swap would be a good one for Cho to take. He's not a floor spacer or a shooter, but for 10 or 15 minutes a night backing up Nic you could do a helluva lot worse, especially given his defensive potential.
     
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    The main thing to remember is anybody coming out of the D'Antoni system will probably have their production cut in half on any other team. Take his numbers, cut them in half, and you have his production on a non D'Antoni system, roughly.
     
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    Given who we have right now to potentially back up Nic (Dante, Babbit), is Chandler better than either or both at defense or offense? For 10-15 minutes a night, couldn't we situationally put either one of those two existing resources out on the floor?
     
  19. Nikolokolus

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    I still don't really see Dante as a three I guess, and Babbitt looks to be pretty far away from being able to play from a defensive POV. Worst case scenario, Chandler is a movable, trade-able expiring contract, and presumably he won't threaten to "return" to Europe if he doesn't get his way.
     
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    Oh, and we'd have to throw in about $400k more salary to get it to work.

    Rudy and Pendy/Dante for Chandler would work.
     

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