Is Cho really waiting for a better offer then Chandler. What exactly are we hoping to get thats better.
I heard when Miller called Rich to talk about the situation, all Rich did was say,"This is Not Cho decision" and hung up the phone.
Chandler isn't that exciting a player. He is young and could yet improve, but I don't know much about his potential. I can see from the stats that he is not a shooter, he is not a playmaker, he is not a defender, he is not a good rebounder. Looks like a bench player that doesn't bring much this team needs right now. I think I would rather have a first round pick than trade two players for Chandler.
Thats what I would guess but that seems a bit much for Rudy even if we throw in our 1st. I think hes overvaluing Rudy and its costing us in the end.
I thought Rudy wasn't coming back to the NBA . . . wasn't the agent last seen screaming this from the rooftops.
Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler? PER doesn't tell the full story. For example, it doesn't account for Chandler being a much better defender than Fernandez. It also doesn't account for the fact that Rudy has better players creating for him and less defensive attention. Also how was Rudy's rookie season significantly better than Chandler's last season? For a player who played lackluster ball last year, and is known to have demanded a trade, getting back Chandler seems like a great move for Portland. Better than any other trade, it seems.
Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler? From midrange, Chandler is actually pretty solid. His three-point shot is shaky though.
I'm with ya on this one! I don't see Dante as a three either. And Chandler backing up Nic is far better than hoping Babbitt can step in each night. And if Chandler's contract is an expiring one, why are we even waiting to pull this trigger? Make the trade!
Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler? I guess I will have to take your word for it about his defense. The advanced stats don't indicate Chandler is a good defender, but on a bad team, coached by a no-defense coach, I will concede it would be hard to tell if Chandler is now or could ever be a good defender on a different team. As for Chandler to Portland, as I posted above, I just don't much benefit in Chandler on the Blazers other than Depth. He doesn't seem the type of player we need right now. A team could always use a lock-down defender - Chandler is not that. The Blazers could use a great shooter to help spread the floor - that was Rudy's role after all. Chandler is not that. Not even close. The Blazers could always use a backup that maybe isn't great at anything but is decent at most things, sorta like Matthews. But, Chandler is not a good rebounder, doesn't create, poor shooter. Too many holes in his game. I don't think he is a good fit for Portland right now.
Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler? You guessed right. The Knicks were simply a horrible defensive team overall. You would have to watch Chandler to get an accurate assessment of his defense. I also wouldn't say that Chandler is a poor rebounder. Playing alongside Lee, Chandler's rebounding numbers are bound to take a hit. But I understand not wanting Chandler because he isn't an ideal fit in Portland. I just think Chandler has more value since Rudy wants to be traded and he had a lackluster season.
In terms of development, If Rudy had the minutes and touches that Chandler got you wouldn't even think of trading Rudy for Chandler. Color me extremely unimpressed with Wilson Chandler. On top of that, he makes no sense for this roster.
Do I remember wrong that you were advocating trading for him a while back? Maybe that was someone else.
Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler? The problem is that a metric like Defense Rating doesn't suggest that Chandler's defense is particularly good. Some of that could be blamed on New York just being a bad defensive team...but it's far from clear that Chandler is a defensive asset. As for whether Fernandez's rookie season was significantly better than Chandler's last season, by PER it was. That is certainly not conclusive, but it doesn't suggest that Chandler is a tremendous asset. Not that I think Rudy is either. Rudy has a number of talents that are undermined by his major flaw: lack of a good handle. My opinion is that Rudy is probably a more "talented" player but, at this point, not necessarily a more effective one. Whether a new coach and system can leverage that talent...I don't know. It's a decent move. I don't consider him a starter-quality player, but swapping out a bench player who doesn't want to be here for a bench player who does can't hurt. And if his defense actually is really good, or becomes really good, it'll be a good pick up. But Chandler becomes a free agent after this coming season, doesn't he? So if he has a good season, he's due to become considerably more expensive. I guess my point is that I don't think Chandler is absurdly more valuable. I think I'd prefer to have him than Rudy, at this point, but it feels closer to "six of one, half a dozen of the other" as opposed to a steal.
