Losing weight

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  1. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Giving up meat is just insane. I can't fathom it.

    If you want an extreme workout that will whip you into shape, read up on crossfit. The LBs and fat will fly off you in just a month.
     
  2. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Btw--since I decided to switch my diet up, I've pretty much given up on all but half a cup of instant coffee a day. I drink between three and four cups of chai tea with some splenda in it instead. Some decaf, some caffeinated. Usually about 16oz mugs, so they're pretty watered down.

    I gotta say, I feel more alert and calm since I switched up. You start reading up on the health benefits of tea vs coffee, and it seems like tea is definitely the preferred drink (particularly green). But there are also benefits to drinking coffee in moderation.
     
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    For how much you claim to know about nutrition, healthy eating and training, you must be quite the physical specimen.
     
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    I like crossfit, but my problem with it is that the workouts are so short. Obviously it depends what the goals are, but I don't really consider crossfit getting you "in shape".
     
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    Well then you've never done crossfit.
     
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    No numerical evidence here - just anecdotal data, but I would go light there on the Splenda. Was using it exclusively for a while and had pretty bad stomach aches - switching back to sugar seemed to have fixed the problem. I am a bit suspicious of all these no-calories engineered sweeteners... - I know that there are studies that did not find any statistical correlation to risk with it - but my personal experience was different.

    I guess that the "everything in moderation" rule of thumb could still apply.
     
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    Uh, yeah. Like I said, it depends on your goals. I invite you come do some workouts after using crossfit as your training. You might make it 20 minutes in, since that is what crossfit will prepare you for.
     
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    Typical.

    Once you fail to support your opinions that lack up-to-date nutrition science backing, after you fail to open your mind to other possiblities so you can maintain confience in your hardened postion, start making ad hominen attacks.

    I could be 500lbs with an inability to walk 10 feet.

    It wouldn't change the facts.

    It wouldn't change the science.
     
  9. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Yeah, I actually use the 50:50 splenda/sugar blend. Straight splenda just tastes too foul for me. About a half teaspoon of that per drink is more than enough. So I guess with four of those I have one teaspoonful of actual splenda a day. Pretty negligible.
     
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    This just isn't true. Sorry.

    What workouts are you talking about?
     
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    It is true. I've done many crossfit workouts. Many of them are much shorter than 20 minutes. It is a good way to pack a good amount of intensity into a short workout. But, IMO, that isn't "in shape".

    I'm talking about 60 mile bike races with 6000ft of climbing. Good luck with crossfit being your training.
     
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    And these "facts" and "sciences" are supported to heavily by professional athletes. That is why you see so many of them.

    And don't start with the "there are less vegans to begin with" line. If the "science" and "facts" backed up your opinion, professional athletes would be doing it, whether they liked it or not. It would be their job.
     
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    There are plenty of crossfit workouts that go over 20 minutes, and the intensity is much greater than just being a full blown cardio workout. You can achieve good stamina and muscle endurance with crossfit. The whole idea around it is to be good in the 10 components of fitness, not just great in a couple.

    60 mile bike races and 6000ft of climbing is more than just being "in shape". Those are for people that train specifically for those events, which is something totally different.
     
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    You really, really have a problem following along don't you.

    No one

    ever

    said

    vegan

    diet

    was

    better

    for

    performance

    Thus, why would high performance athletes, the vast majority of whom are not vegans to begin with, change their diet for no significant advantage in performance.

    Vegan diet is HEALTHIER.

    That is the point of this whole fucking thread. Not your off-track confusion, where you are injecting a bunch of ill-informed anecdotal based opinions.

    Mook wanted to lose wieght. You lose weight by taking in fewer calories. But, if you already have a relatively poor nutrient supplying diet - as the vast majority of Americans do - and then you reduce your calories - that is poor for health long-term. That's is the key message I am trying to get across. I don't really care about your training regimines and associated superstitions.
     
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    Vegetables typically have virtually no fat, which is good for your cholesterol, which is good for your heart. That's the bottom line.

    I say "typically" because vegetable oil is fat, and there are trace amounts of fat in vegetables. Some have a lot, like olives.
     
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    Calm down there, Nancy.

    Mook wanted to lose weight. I said it depends what the goals for losing weight are. If the goal is to lose weight just to get skinny, go ahead and just cut calories. If the goal is to lose weight for looks and / or athletic performance, you have to do more than just cut calories. In the latter case, vegan is going to be a tough way to do it.

    Try following along next time, or improve your reading comprehension.
     
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    Calm down there, Nancy.

    Mook wanted to lose weight. I said it depends what the goals for losing weight are. If the goal is to lose weight just to get skinny, go ahead and just cut calories. If the goal is to lose weight for looks and / or athletic performance, you have to do more than just cut calories. In the latter case, vegan is going to be a tough way to do it.

    Try following along next time, or improve your reading comprehension.
     
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    Like I said... it is great for fitting high intensity workouts into a short amount of time. Some people can handle a lot more, and do both high intensity training and endurance training.

    Whatever helps you sleep at night. Like I said, it depends on what your definition of "in shape" means.
     
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    Endurance training is involved in crossfit workouts.

    Being fit in the 10 components of fitness is indeed "in shape". I just think you don't have a great idea what crossfit is, not too mention your definition of being "in shape" is just odd.
     
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    haha. No. See above about what real endurance training is.


    I did the regional crossfit competition. It took 7 minutes. It was intense. But had nothing to do with endurance.

    Tell that to elite level triathletes, runners, cyclists, swimmers, cross-country skiers, etc etc.

    Just because you can't hope to do it, doesn't mean it is "odd".
     

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