OT: Rondo withdraws from Team USA

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Except, of course, for when he plays Deron Williams.
    And when he doesn't play at all, because his knees are totally fucked.
     
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  2. 44Thrilla

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    How many players in history have averaged 17,10 and 10 over 14 playoff games?
     
    44Thrilla, Aug 25, 2010
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    Probably a bunch. Basketball has been played for a lot of years.
     
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    Less than a bunch.
     
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  5. 44Thrilla

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    LOL.

    Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Fat Lever and Jason Kidd are the only players to do it over one series. I'm not even sure if they did it for 14 straight games. Can't find that.
     
    44Thrilla, Aug 25, 2010
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    I'm pretty sure Kidd did. In the first round against Raptors, and then in second round against Cavs.
     
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    Well, he didn't play in 14 games, only 12. But 14, 11 and 11 is impressive.
     
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    rose shooting more is relevant how? rondo turns the ball over more. and his(rose) "job as a pg" is a lot different when he's also the best scorer on the team. rondo has 3 guys i'd want scoring over him, so of course he's going to be taking less shots.
     
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    Despite everything thats been discussed here, this year should be the pin on the board for these two players. The Celtics team, albeit older, is hungry and ready for one last run with their young all star PG; on the flipside, Chicago finally has a legit low-post scorer (Noah was a garbage man, if anything) to run the pick-and-roll with Rose along with shooters that'll hit shots.

    I'd like to see this debate between Rose and Rondo discussed after this year. It'll be interesting, and pardon my inner homer, but I can envision this year being Rose's transition year from a high-scoring PG, to a Chris Paul-meets-Dwyane Wade PG.
     
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    Maybe the coaches valued a point guard who can hit a free throw at a %50 clip?
     
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    Right now, Rondo's better. When the Bulls play the Celtics, it's one hell of a match up though.
     
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    A lot more of Rose's possessions end with a FGA, whereas Rondo tries to create offense for other players. If you miss a pass, it's a TO. If you miss a shot, it's not.
     
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    I agree with Thrilla.
     
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    82games.com shows rondo and rose with the exact same assist to passing to ratio.
     
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    I'm with this.

    Rocketeer we usually are on the same page but I don't understand your use of statistics. There's literally none that support Rose over Rondo, trying to use tangible evidence in favor of Rose is futile.

    Now how they are doing in FIBA is different, and insignificant to me. I only care about the NBA for the most part.
     
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    Rondo has higher PER, and Rose is still just a below average scorer, efficiency wise.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=aGyCn


    Using the more sophisticated Usage-efficiency tradeoff, it is a bit closer but Rondo always seems to have an edge in all barometers.
     
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    i wasn't comparing them statistically overall, just pointing out 44thrilla being wrong in that one specific case he mentioned.
     
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